Simeon Birnbaum deadly kick

The other kid won the Drake 800 this year.

You’re going to disrespect Birnbaum here, and then try to claim your idiotic opinions carry more weight on this forum because you are ‘registered’?

lol

I said the opposite. Your posts carry less weight than those of registered users.

How can saying that it’s tough to be an NXN champ with 1:48 speed in a mile, disrespectful? What’s wrong with you? Are you confident Birnbaum has 1:47 speed?

Don’t try and change the goalposts. You know what you claimed in your original post that I first responded too. So yeah, that is further evidence that “NO”, registering here does NOT give more credence to one’s opinions on here.

Just look at the posts of the banned touhyite registered “TurboKick”, who also posts under the registered handle “gorun”, amongst others, as further confirmation of this obvious point.

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Whatever, and bolding stuff makes me think you’re a moron. Why can’t you explain why there’s no chance Aaron can outkick Birnbaum? You’re first response to my question was an insult and it’s gone downhill from there. Is that your version of intelligent conversation?

Whatever, dude. You disrespected Birnbaum with your original post. So keep sleeping on him, if you choose. They slept on Gorze, too.

I don't know anything about either of these kids, but I just wanted to give props to this post as one of the funniest I've ever seen.

"Yes, Runner A beat Runner B every time they'd met previously... but in the specific circumstances that occurred in their most recent race, Runner B has won 100% of the time! He's unbeatable!!!*

*(in those specific circumstances, based on a sample size of one)"

His name is spelled Sahlman, not Stahlman.

And no way is Aaron Sahlman beating Leo Young in a 1500/mile right now.

Did you pick Sahlman to win NXN or for Leo to get passed by several runners at the end? How can you know these sports outcomes with such certainty? You must be a billionaire from winning 100% of your bets.

At least make some kind of an argument for Birnbaum’s chances instead of just insulting SDSU.

Sahlman ran the anomalous XC race of his life to win NXN, 11 seconds ahead of Birnbaum who basically performed as expected. Advantage Sahlman, but on a different day on a different course the outcome could change. And that’s cross country.

Sahlman has run 1:48.91 behind his brother last year and a couple of 1:49-lows this season. I don’t think that’s definitively better than Birnbaum’s capable of at 800 by any means: he’s run 49 in the open 400 and 1:50.12 ten months ago without it being his primary focus. 1:48-high is just about what I’d peg him for in the right race. You have to keep in mind that Sahlman is racing at the California MOC and Bryan Clay, while Birnbaum is running most of his early season races in cold and windy South Dakota spring weather.

In Birnbaum’s favor is the fact that he owns the superior track PRs. 3:59y and 8:34 are actually better times than anything Aaron Sahlman has run to date. He closed the mile in 56 to become the first American 16 year old to break 4. He beat some very very good kids when he ran 8:34 with a 2:03 last 800m. He came in to Des Moines and calmly assassinated Heidesch, who I think will run 3:59 himself this June.

Asking “do you think this year’s Birnbaum would have beaten Colin Sahlman last year too?” isn’t some eye opening argument. Colin and Aaron are different people, and if Colin’s not more talented, he did seem more consistent. Even still, I’m not prepared to answer the hypothetical yet: the best time of Colin’s HS career was the 3:56.24 mile he ran at Pre, and I would not be surprised if Birnbaum runs a similar time this season.

So, while it wouldn’t surprise me to see A. Sahlman produce some ridiculous kick to run 3:56 and beat Birnbaum, the same is true in reverse, and if I were betting on one I’d put my money on Birnbaum.

Yes. The first sentence of the OP is “I’ve noticed a pattern, if Birnbaum is still in it in the final lap, you can already call the race.” I was simply illustrating that the post “Heidesch has outkicked Birnbaum every other time they’ve raced” does not refute the pattern, as a matter of fact. That does not mean I believe Birnbaum is unbeatable.

Nobody can predict who will win on a particular day, especially at this age. Some of these guys will never break t amd some will end up running 3:53.

This kid is ASS. He literally is a 400m runner who thinks he can run on the grass. His running on GRASS=ASS. Oregon is taking a major L by getting him next year.

Finally someone brings some intelligent insight to the discussion.