World Athletics has a profile of Kincaid up on their website. He talks about the differences in his workouts this year form the past.
“When I joined Mike, he does double threshold at 7000ft and it’s a little bit faster than what I was running, so that was also a little step in the right direction, and his rest is a lot shorter than what I was doing. He’s really about building the engine and then sharpening through different ways – short hills and through specific sessions.”
He also talks about he is all in now.
“I used to have a lot of passions, but I feel like recently I have become a little more like ‘this is my moment’ and very focused on doing that, and I’m happy just doing that,” he says. “I know other people say you have to have things outside of the sport, but I’ve done so many things outside the sport, and I just want to focus on the sport the last few years that I can. I have a lot to learn. I have to learn new workouts, I have to learn my competition, I have to learn how to race well. There are a lot of ways that I still need to improve, that requires all my attention.”
“On Bowerman, I never felt like I had to be a student of the sport, I was part of an elite team and it kind of happened on its own,” he says. “Now I have to take time out of my day to watch races and to figure out my training and things like that.”
World Athletics has a profile of Kincaid up on their website. He talks about the differences in his workouts this year form the past.
“When I joined Mike, he does double threshold at 7000ft and it’s a little bit faster than what I was running, so that was also a little step in the right direction, and his rest is a lot shorter than what I was doing. He’s really about building the engine and then sharpening through different ways – short hills and through specific sessions.”
He also talks about he is all in now.
“I used to have a lot of passions, but I feel like recently I have become a little more like ‘this is my moment’ and very focused on doing that, and I’m happy just doing that,” he says. “I know other people say you have to have things outside of the sport, but I’ve done so many things outside the sport, and I just want to focus on the sport the last few years that I can. I have a lot to learn. I have to learn new workouts, I have to learn my competition, I have to learn how to race well. There are a lot of ways that I still need to improve, that requires all my attention.”
“On Bowerman, I never felt like I had to be a student of the sport, I was part of an elite team and it kind of happened on its own,” he says. “Now I have to take time out of my day to watch races and to figure out my training and things like that.”
Rojo, a Mike Smith "double threshold day" sounds equivalent to a John Kellogg "double crest load" day.
I always thought the NAU stuff was closer to true threshold, I don't think its faster than T, it's just not much slower like with Jakob. They also only do it once a week
Woodys use of the term “threshold” and “double threshold” in recent interviews is interesting to me. He said in a Citius interview Jerry did single threshold workouts around 10 miles and Smith did double threshold with the example of 6 miles in the morning and 6 miles in the evening. This does not sound anything like the Norwegian idea of double threshold which is run at intervals at 2.5mmol morning and 3.5mmol evening. It just seems like tempo around threshold by feel, or a more traditional use of the term threshold. I feel like even 99% of pro runners are not doing very scientific training. Not that it seems to matter much. It seems like most pro runners have never even done lactate testing more than once or twice
Think 99% is high. Maybe only 1% (I’d think more like 5%) are measuring their Lactate frequently like the Ingebridstens or Mo Katir. But Jacob Kiplimo has shared videos of his own testing, and I’ve seen a fair number of American and European athletes doing testing every now and then. Most of the African groups (Cheptegei, Kipchoge, Ethiopian groups) I would agree seem to be more like Bowerman as in scientifically sound workouts, but trusting the athletes to drop out when they’re unable to keep up and athletes to self-evaluate as far as how they feel regarding the prescribed paces.
Woodys use of the term “threshold” and “double threshold” in recent interviews is interesting to me. He said in a Citius interview Jerry did single threshold workouts around 10 miles and Smith did double threshold with the example of 6 miles in the morning and 6 miles in the evening. This does not sound anything like the Norwegian idea of double threshold which is run at intervals at 2.5mmol morning and 3.5mmol evening. It just seems like tempo around threshold by feel, or a more traditional use of the term threshold. I feel like even 99% of pro runners are not doing very scientific training. Not that it seems to matter much. It seems like most pro runners have never even done lactate testing more than once or twice
Think 99% is high. Maybe only 1% (I’d think more like 5%) are measuring their Lactate frequently like the Ingebridstens or Mo Katir. But Jacob Kiplimo has shared videos of his own testing, and I’ve seen a fair number of American and European athletes doing testing every now and then.
Wondering90's 99% and your 1% are the same thing, if you look again.
I think the trend must be moving in the direction of more testing, because I feel like I'm hearing more about it on a regular basis, and from more groups.
Interestingly enough, a 7:34 3k begets a threshold of 4:35 at sea level, but at 7000ft of altitude that 4:35 becomes a 4:45 mile. If you go to Bosley's strava, it seems like he does all of his double threshold work at the 445-448 pace range, so this falls right into that "altitude threshold". But yes, they don't follow the norwegian system where it's 2.5mmol in the mornings and 3.5mmol in the afternoons, they seem to do all of the double threshold training at LT2/3.5mmol.
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