16-yr-old 3:55 miler Cam Myers doesn't even run 50 mpw

logic and common sense? obviously there are exceptions but when a 16 year old is running 3:55 on 50 mpw it's safe to assume the majority of those miles are "quality." ymmv

No, isn't logical to assume that. It is merely a guess. But what are "quality miles"? Why should you assume higher mileage isn't "quality"? Lydiard (and Snell) obviously didn't.

Since it is being assumed here that low mileage means better "quality mileage" the logic suggests the lower the better. If he trained only 30-40mpw he therefore might be running 3.50 and not 3.55. Or is 50mpw somehow the magic number for optimal performance?

I don’t know why everyone is bickering over his training regime. Obviously he is naturally talented and he and his coach have found a formula that works for him. Will it lead to Olympic glory one day, guess we will know the answer to that in the future.

It is logical. Not a single elite 800 m athlete in the world trains like Snell did. Lydiard was a pioneer but his method was improved (like he predicted and wished).

Find a coach that explains it to you...

Army doesn't need that - he knows it all. haven't you read the 1000's of posts he spews on this site on a daily basis? He is omniscient, only his opinion really matters. What he types is fact, not opinion. Only the old guard (white and antipodean for the most part) are clean, everyone else is dirty.

Snell was the world mile record holder. Myers is not an 800 runner.

"Natural talent" - the explanation for everything that can't otherwise be explained.

So you can't?

I asked a question, I didn't offer an answer. I was hoping someone could provide that. But they apparently can't. And neither can you.

My mistake. I had just read the article on McGown.

But what I wrote applies to the 1500 m as well.

People have given all the answers necessary. It is you who doesn't accept them. See your reply to the poster who said Myers is very talented.

You are entitled to your opinion, of course, but so are others. And their answers have been spot on.

They haven't answered the question of what are "quality miles". Also, why does this only apply at a lower mileage? Why is it 50mpw - and not 30 or 40mpw? No one would be running 100mpw if they weren't also "quality miles".

As for "talent" - that is only presumed from results. Those results may be the result of hard work. (But not in his case, apparently). Or something else.

Top 1500 runners generally put in a high mileage as part of their conditioning phase. Without it, you are going back to the pre-Elliott and Snell era and the '50's. Back then it was a tremendous feat to even break 4 mins for the mile. No schoolboy was capable of getting near it.

There are numerous outstanding 800m guys running 30-40 or even less but not a lot of 1500m guys. Still, you do find the occasional 800m specialist on low mileage running a quality 1500. What mileage did guys like Kaki (1:42/3:31), David Krummenacker (1:43/3:31.93), and Nick Symmonds (1:42.95/3:34 on one good attempt) run? Symmonds did do 5M tempos, so he may be on the higher level in mileage. 50 mpw is really just within the low range for a top miler. Lagat was running 50-60 mpw for much of his career on six days of running per week and ran 3:26.34 on that mileage. 50 mpw (7 miles per day) is enough to get a good deal of aerobic improvement and room for longer repeat work with an 8-10 mile long run but short enough to really hit the short repeats hard and fast. Your muscles are fresh enough to go fast after the easy days but you can do workouts like 6-8x800 and 5-7x1k, as well as 12-20x200 to 400.

The 800 is a very different event from the 1500. This runner is not an 800 specialist. A top 1500 runner requires serious aerobic conditioning. That isn't a max of 50mpw.

Quoting the training of a suspect runner who tested positive for EPO doesn't help your case.

Fyi he ISN'T coached by dick telford. He is actually coached by bobby lee, who's group also trained in Canberra, but since his group has a few too fast guys for the rest of 'em; ie Myers, they sometimes work out with Telford's guys.

I don’t think he’s trained by Dick Telford.