Nothing improved my three and six mile times as much as training for the marathon did. That was a very common experience in the 70s and 80s.
Seems to be a very common experience regardless of the time period. Maybe it says something about the way the majority of athletes approach distance running on the track. Even runners training for the 1500, it seems, perform best when they bump up the mileage and threshold volume. Who could've guessed that running more would help you run faster.
That is because most people aren't doing remotely enough mileage. How many 1500-10k guys running say 90-110mpw when training for those events see a noticeable improvements in time with more mileage.
I am always suspect on what people say about training. Hopefully at some point we start seeing some pros publish their lifetime training. It would be cool to see some kid who strapped in a Garmin at 15 and 15 years later we can see all the work that was done.
Everyone here is missing the main thing: she cross trains ALOT. Between running and cross training she’s probably been doing the equivalent of 100+ miles a week for years
The secret to taking 20 seconds off her PB was.... getting a really good sit behind a strong runner who ran an even pace.
When she ran her previous PB of 30:19, she was on pace for 30-flat through half way, but faded in the second half, as she was out on her own.
But yes, I take your point. The increased mileage that accompanies marathon training would certainly improve her running economy at all paces. Her Vo2 max might've dropped down a little, but it's a positive trade-off.
Indeed . One wonders why she didn't mention this, has been well detailed and one assumes she wasn't doing all the time on the bike just to burn some kcals. Anecdotally this seems to work fairly well up to HM but less so at full marathon
"At a time when the sport suffers from allegations of doping, whenever somebody like you has a huge breakthrough, there are always people who are skeptics and question the legitimacy of your performance. How do you handle that? SH: In a way you have to be honored that you’re at the level that people are questioning it. I try not to read all that stuff because it can get to me a little bit. It’s a little defeating. It takes the air out of your balloon. It’s a time when I should be celebrating and really happy and if I’m reading things that say I have to be cheating, I just want to tell them to have some faith in me. I’m not cheating. It’s easy to jump to those conclusions after this year—on paper I’ve had huge PRs, but if you’re around me every day, seeing what I’m doing, you’d know that I probably should have had a little faster PRs to begin with. I likely could have broken four minutes in the 1500 last year, and I definitely could have been in the 14:40s in the 5K. It’s not as shocking as it seems. I love working hard and I love the workouts that leave me on the ground dying."
And how does an injury-prone 32-year old runner tolerate a sudden uptick in mileage?
Drugs…..
Maybe.
But it could also be that she is not having to do jumps and hurdles anymore, which put a significant strain on tendons, ligaments, bones and muscles.
She could be wearing carbon fiber shoes that are less wear and tear on her body.
In addition, she may be doing more mileage but the two-a-days could be allowing her to do less at a time and be able to recover from the damage as opposed to doing a huge single run and having so much damage it takes too long to recover and she's on to the next workout.
In line with Sisson's marathon CWR from last year.
I wonder what those 2 runners have in common.
No ties to doping coaches or agents. Not from a country with a history of drug busts. No outlandish improvements or random otherworldly times. Yeah, some decent commonalities.
So basically what she explained is a US woman can go <30 and probably <1:05 half without ever running a 100mi week
And this is the first time she’s been able to double in workouts without getting hurt. Previously extra mileage just set her back.
No I take this as she's freakishly gifted. She literally said she increased her mileage and now she runs faster. Proving that more mileage makes you run faster. She is very fortunate to have run so fast previously on low mileage. There are tons and tons of people running 40-60 mile weeks, they do not run what she has run. And she said she wasn't even lifting weights. So she was running low mileage, and no strength work. It was off of talent that she was fast to begin with, not from hard work because she wasn't even putting in a lot of work. I much rather read about Cam Levins' path to success, he has to work a ton for it.
So basically what she explained is a US woman can go <30 and probably <1:05 half without ever running a 100mi week
And this is the first time she’s been able to double in workouts without getting hurt. Previously extra mileage just set her back.
No I take this as she's freakishly gifted. She literally said she increased her mileage and now she runs faster. Proving that more mileage makes you run faster. She is very fortunate to have run so fast previously on low mileage. There are tons and tons of people running 40-60 mile weeks, they do not run what she has run. And she said she wasn't even lifting weights. So she was running low mileage, and no strength work. It was off of talent that she was fast to begin with, not from hard work because she wasn't even putting in a lot of work. I much rather read about Cam Levins' path to success, he has to work a ton for it.
I'd love to know what her mum makes of the success Elish has had at the volume she does...or doesn't. Even at the new higher volume Elish does it's about half what Liz did at times.
So you are insinuating that she is doping, but Monson who came in 3 sec later is clean? Explain your logic, or lack of
That post insinuates zero about Monson. From the two posts you’ve quoted, you’re the only one displaying a bias regarding OAC.
No babe, it insinuates that McColgan is cheating because she won. Too difficult for you to figure that out? If Yocir thinks she is cheating then what about the others who are at her level? That’s the point. Go have a seat now
I think VO2 max is, by far, the most important thing for shorter racing. I was a 3k/5k specialist, but I could run a competitive-enough 10k. I ran better 5ks and even 10ks on moderate mileage with high intensity than high mileage. I think I could have broken 29 if I trained specifically for the 10k, but I ran sub 8 and later sub 14 and sub 13:45 off moderate mileage. It makes 30:00 pace feel like a jog
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