These online books generate publicity by all the prop bets like receiving yardage over/unders. It lends to the impression that those pools are a major part of their handle. Hardly. Those limits are very low. They publicize the props in commercials and on programs like Football Night in America because they want to hook as many newcomers as possible, while knowing darn well that they won't be disciplined in the long run. They might start out focusing on props then inevitably they'll detour to meat and potatoes stuff like spread and total.
Besides, football props like that will still generate lots of two-way action because there's so much interest level in general.
None of the above apply to track and field. The sportsbooks know they would be dealing to wise guy action, regardless of what the limits are. And they won't get much two-way action or much volume to begin with. It's simply not worth the time or stress expenditure.
The sportsbooks prefer a landscape in which it doesn't matter if one of their numbers is bad on let's say a full slate of basketball. That number might move 3 points and the sharps collect. They more than make it up with so much public action on everything else.
In track and field if they hang one bad number on a meet, that's where all the money will go. Pounded. They'll never get enough public "square" action to offset.
There is sports betting for the Olympics. Big events like the london/boston marathon are probably bet on at online sites. In Europe it's probably common to have track and field betting.
It's not common in Europe. At peak I've only seen it for a couple of meets per year. Only the big ones where the sportsbooks know who is going to be there and have confidence that everybody will be giving their best effort.
That effort criteria is the reason track and field is not booked other than Olympics and World Championships and a handful of elite marathons. Oddsmakers want to spend as little time as possible on an event. They love team sports because it's simply plug and play via widely available power ratings. It's too bad those oddsmaking sessions are never televised. The public would be shocked. There is no discussion of personnel or particulars whatsoever. Each game requires 30-60 seconds tops. They can do it that way because it's a grind all year long with thousands and thousands within the sample. It doesn't matter if the odds aren't perfect. Power ratings make them perfect enough. And since there are generally 12 to 53 players on every team they don't have to care about psyche or effort level, etc. Faith in numbers.
Individual sports are totally different. Now it's one guy and countless variables to deal with. The sportsbooks don't want to be worrying about one guy treating the meet as imperative while the guy with the higher power rating is using it as a warmup race. Wise guy bettors can afford to laser focus on that type of thing. Sportsbooks understand their vulnerability. The more time and subjectivity required the less likely they are to book something.
When I worked as sportsbook supervisor in Las Vegas the chief oddsmaker in the state would call specific sportsbooks and scold them for putting up homemade events and numbers. He wanted the bottom line strictly dictated by the numbers sent from his office.
Perhaps such effort criteria is less of an inhibiting factor for booking NCAA Championship events (XC, Indoor & Outdoor). Do you think reliable power ratings could be generated from athlete progression over time and performances in the seasonal meets that precede Champs?
Why is there no sports betting for track and field right now? I mean think about how much bigger this would make the sport and bring in way more viewers, publicity, and money. I feel like this is a pretty easy thing to do and would greatly help our sport’s growth. Someone get on it and make this a thing
Nobody knows the athletes and nobody watches on TV. Why would anyone bet on that?
There used to be a website called vegasseven.com. About 10 years ago they ran an article called, "Making the Line." It's the only real-world depiction I've ever seen of the chief oddsmaking session.
When I say 30-60 seconds per game I'm not referring to the time expenditure once the line is funneled to each sportsbook for review before they put it on the board. I'm talking about total time expenditure period. That's how long it takes to come up with the "send" number when all the top guys are in the room with chief oddsmaker making the final call. It goes that quickly because all of them are looking at the same sets of power ratings. There really isn't much need for debate. As depicted well in that article, the only common topic is the chief oddsmaker trying to gauge which way the money will go. He bases that on recent trends involving the two teams...whether or not they have consistently drawn money for or against.
There is no wasted time on injuries or matchups or other peripheral crap that the public fixates on but plays no role in those cherished power rating compilations.
They probably do the oddsmaking sessions remotely these days. I have no idea. But during my time and also when that 2013 article was written it was always in a small room with most guys other than the chief oddsmaker dressed like a bum. The one hilarious aspect of the "Vegas Seven" article was that some guys dressed better than ever before in their lives, because they'd obviously been tipped to the upcoming article and that cameramen would be present.
I linked that article on a Canes college football site. Many of the regulars were stunned, especially the ones who had always mocked my assertion that oddsmaking sessions were very brief and unsophisticated, with no variables needed other than power ratings.
Somehow those guys clutch the mysterious notion of secret inside information blended via magical subjective tinkerings into the holy pointspread.
That mythology never fails to bust me up. But the leaders of the industry push that theme generation after generation, because they want to be viewed as secret sauce. Nobody would care about their input if the curtain were drawn and it's nothing but a handful of guys looking at power ratings.
Unfortunately that "Vegas Seven" website folded about 4 or 5 years ago. I should have known enough to take some screen captures of the article.
Why is there no sports betting for track and field right now? I mean think about how much bigger this would make the sport and bring in way more viewers, publicity, and money. I feel like this is a pretty easy thing to do and would greatly help our sport’s growth. Someone get on it and make this a thing
There is sports betting for the Olympics. Big events like the london/boston marathon are probably bet on at online sites. In Europe it's probably common to have track and field betting.
You could spend some of the taxpayer dollars you get given on betting
Hey, I'm new on this forum, and I gotta say that sports betting for track and field just doesn't seem like it'd be as exciting as other sports. I mean, there's no real superstar like LeBron James or Tom Brady to bet on. But hey, everyone's got their own preferences. Personally, I'm all about NFL betting. And when I'm feeling lucky, I hit up some for some slot games. You can't go wrong with a classic like Cleopatra or trying out some new ones. What about you guys? What are your go-to sports for betting and gambling?
There used to be a website called vegasseven.com. About 10 years ago they ran an article called, "Making the Line." It's the only real-world depiction I've ever seen of the chief oddsmaking session.
When I say 30-60 seconds per game I'm not referring to the time expenditure once the line is funneled to each sportsbook for review before they put it on the board. I'm talking about total time expenditure period. That's how long it takes to come up with the "send" number when all the top guys are in the room with chief oddsmaker making the final call. It goes that quickly because all of them are looking at the same sets of power ratings. There really isn't much need for debate. As depicted well in that article, the only common topic is the chief oddsmaker trying to gauge which way the money will go. He bases that on recent trends involving the two teams...whether or not they have consistently drawn money for or against.
There is no wasted time on injuries or matchups or other peripheral crap that the public fixates on but plays no role in those cherished power rating compilations.
They probably do the oddsmaking sessions remotely these days. I have no idea. But during my time and also when that 2013 article was written it was always in a small room with most guys other than the chief oddsmaker dressed like a bum. The one hilarious aspect of the "Vegas Seven" article was that some guys dressed better than ever before in their lives, because they'd obviously been tipped to the upcoming article and that cameramen would be present.
I linked that article on a Canes college football site. Many of the regulars were stunned, especially the ones who had always mocked my assertion that oddsmaking sessions were very brief and unsophisticated, with no variables needed other than power ratings.
Somehow those guys clutch the mysterious notion of secret inside information blended via magical subjective tinkerings into the holy pointspread.
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Unfortunately that "Vegas Seven" website folded about 4 or 5 years ago. I should have known enough to take some screen captures of the article.
Interesting point of view, but anyway - I agree with Awsi Dooger. I've been in the sports betting industry for over 20 years, and I can tell you that oddsmakers don't spend a lot of time debating injuries, matchups, or other peripheral factors. They focus on power ratings, and they set the line based on those ratings. It's important to remember that oddsmakers are looking at the same sets of power ratings. They also have a lot of experience setting lines, so they're able to do it quickly and efficiently. I've been in the room with oddsmakers when they're setting the line, and I can tell you that they're not really debating anything. They're just looking at the power ratings and making sure that the line is fair. The only time they'll really debate something is if they're trying to gauge which way the money will go. So I don't think oddsmakers spend a lot of time thinking about injuries, matchups, or other peripheral factors. They focus on power ratings, and they set the line based on those ratings. And yup, I also agree with Dooger that the leaders of the industry push the theme that they have secret inside information and that they use magical subjective tinkerings to set the line. They do this because they want to be viewed as experts. But the truth is, oddsmaking is a lot more straightforward than most people think:)
Why is there no sports betting for track and field right now? I mean think about how much bigger this would make the sport and bring in way more viewers, publicity, and money. I feel like this is a pretty easy thing to do and would greatly help our sport’s growth. Someone get on it and make this a thing
The idea that oddsmakers focus less on debating injuries, matchups, and other factors and more on these ratings sheds light on how the industry operates. It's all about making informed decisions quickly and efficiently. And yes, the perception of having secret inside information can add to the mystique of the industry. But it's reassuring to know that there's a methodical approach behind the scenes. If you're into online gambling and want to explore more aspects of betting, you might want to check out
Why is there no sports betting for track and field right now? I mean think about how much bigger this would make the sport and bring in way more viewers, publicity, and money. I feel like this is a pretty easy thing to do and would greatly help our sport’s growth. Someone get on it and make this a thing
Because no one gives a crap about track. the only time anyone watches it are the sprints in the Olympics. Let’s face reality
Apparently you've never been to a Cali or Texas State High School meet. Never been to the Penn Relays or Texas Relays.
Way too easy in track to throw a race for your cut of the $$$$$.
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