Where I'm from, however, you can buy houses starting at $5k (they're typically up for auction though, and sell for probably around $20k), but it'll be boarded up, the interior will look like a bomb went off, and it'll be located in a very violent neighborhood. You can buy quite nice houses for about $600k - but if you place the same house in the county it'll be worth more than $1 million because you pay half as much in property taxes and it'll never have to deal with crime.
Just saw a video tour of Carmel HS near Indianapolis. First 20 seconds or so I thought, "No different than any other high school I've seen." Then it started to get ridiculous.
While that is certainly a good and well-funded high school, there are PUBLIC high schools like that in and around most major cities in this country...there are exceptions, but GOOD public schools look like that.
This is why I have long said that public education in this country is BETTER in most cases if you can afford to live in a good area. For some stupid reason, on the East Coast, even in progressive BLUE states, public education isn't as good as it is in other areas of the country (both blue and red states). My guess is that it's just the attitude of the people who live there who just generally believe that private education is better...kind of creates its own destiny there.
In most states, public school teachers are paid more than private school teachers, and the public schools have more resources are are much better.
Carmel is a wealthy area around Indianapolis. You can find similar places in and around Toledo, Columbus, Cleveland, Louisville, San Jose, San Francisco, Dallas, Phoenix, Denver, Seattle, Portland (OR and ME), and on and on and on. Yes, MOST high schools don't look like that because most high schools are not in wealthy areas. Make a professional-level salary, and your kid can go to a high school like that too.
I always recommend that if you are able to afford a quality private prep school, take advantage of it. I live in a high income area of Atlanta with, by most people's standards, some great public schools. However, the private schools here are much, much better. This is the case in most of the wealthier areas around the country. You don't have to deal with the issues caused by 20% of students/parents/faculty at public schools, the facilities are better, quality of education is better, more admin faculty, etc. Admin run the school like a business with students/parents as customers.
If you have the means, a quality private prep school is much better than a quality public school.
While that is certainly a good and well-funded high school, there are PUBLIC high schools like that in and around most major cities in this country...there are exceptions, but GOOD public schools look like that.
This is why I have long said that public education in this country is BETTER in most cases if you can afford to live in a good area. For some stupid reason, on the East Coast, even in progressive BLUE states, public education isn't as good as it is in other areas of the country (both blue and red states). My guess is that it's just the attitude of the people who live there who just generally believe that private education is better...kind of creates its own destiny there.
In most states, public school teachers are paid more than private school teachers, and the public schools have more resources are are much better.
Carmel is a wealthy area around Indianapolis. You can find similar places in and around Toledo, Columbus, Cleveland, Louisville, San Jose, San Francisco, Dallas, Phoenix, Denver, Seattle, Portland (OR and ME), and on and on and on. Yes, MOST high schools don't look like that because most high schools are not in wealthy areas. Make a professional-level salary, and your kid can go to a high school like that too.
I always recommend that if you are able to afford a quality private prep school, take advantage of it. I live in a high income area of Atlanta with, by most people's standards, some great public schools. However, the private schools here are much, much better. This is the case in most of the wealthier areas around the country. You don't have to deal with the issues caused by 20% of students/parents/faculty at public schools, the facilities are better, quality of education is better, more admin faculty, etc. Admin run the school like a business with students/parents as customers.
If you have the means, a quality private prep school is much better than a quality public school.
There are no private schools in the Atlanta area that are "much, much" better than the best public schools in the area. Sorry, but that's BS.
I always recommend that if you are able to afford a quality private prep school, take advantage of it. I live in a high income area of Atlanta with, by most people's standards, some great public schools. However, the private schools here are much, much better. This is the case in most of the wealthier areas around the country. You don't have to deal with the issues caused by 20% of students/parents/faculty at public schools, the facilities are better, quality of education is better, more admin faculty, etc. Admin run the school like a business with students/parents as customers.
If you have the means, a quality private prep school is much better than a quality public school.
There are no private schools in the Atlanta area that are "much, much" better than the best public schools in the area. Sorry, but that's BS.
Home values are high (by Indiana standards) and poverty is extremely low / not existent in Carmel. The poors are priced out and what's left are the folks with solid jobs in Indianapolis who commute from Carmel. The combo of solid funding and virtually no poverty makes Carmel an exceptional school system.
The community also seems to embrace public schools. Virtually everyone I know thinks the Mayor is doing a good job. There's a communal "let's keep Carmel great" vibe. To be sure, I'd rather jump off a bridge than move there, but you can't deny the town's success.
I just Googled it, and Carmel's mayor has been there for 26 years. He must have been doing a good job.
He has. There's quite a lot going on in Carmel as far as entertainment compared to 10 years ago. The city has been on the rise for a while as there is very high demand to move there.
One thing that I've read is that the city is in a ton of debt. This could pose a problem with rising interest rates and a declining economy. Property taxes are quite low in Carmel. I can see taxes getting jacked up here to compensate.
Then, you are correct enough that I will not dispute your claim, though there ARE a couple of school districts in the Baltimore area that are very very good. East Coast from Washington DC on up north have a different deal generally speaking with regard to private schools. That same reality though doesn't fit in pretty much ALL of the rest of the country.
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I just Googled it, and Carmel's mayor has been there for 26 years. He must have been doing a good job.
He has. There's quite a lot going on in Carmel as far as entertainment compared to 10 years ago. The city has been on the rise for a while as there is very high demand to move there.
One thing that I've read is that the city is in a ton of debt. This could pose a problem with rising interest rates and a declining economy. Property taxes are quite low in Carmel. I can see taxes getting jacked up here to compensate.
What declining economy are you talking about? Have you ever lived during a bad economic time? Carmel is doing just fine...thriving even. It generates a lot of revenue with much higher than average salaries, and its job growth is projected to be outstanding
Nationally, we have ~two jobs available for every job seeker, and Americans feel so good about their job security that they are spending like mad.
That's true, but to a certain extent. Roland Park elementary / middle is the best public middle school, while Poly or City are the best publics, but they're not great at all. I believe RPEMS is around 60% proficiency in both math and reading, and about 25% of students are on free / reduced lunch. It also pulls from a few bad areas.
I agree that the rest of the country tends to be good. I had a lot of friends from Chicago (suburbs) in college, and they almost all went to public schools. However, they were from Naperville which has some of the best publics in the country - you'll get a great education there, so there's not a huge difference (mainly in college admissions to good colleges) compared going to the best private located in Chicago itself.
New York, though, is crazy. I could talk about that for years - the feeder preschools (I'm not making this up) have acceptance rates under 10%.
I was a little unclear. There's a small difference between Naperville public schools and elite Chicago private schools, but this virtually only manifests in college admissions to selective (<10% acceptance rate) colleges. However, I think those schools have a higher concentration of legacies, but I haven't had the time to dig into that deeply.