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3 years ago 01/27/2023 8:01pm EST

re: Dr NO

Dr NO wrote:
No Olie Hoare ?

Hoare rabbitted.

Fun race. Klecker started to gap Kincaid on the fourth to last lap and just as the announcer said, "Klecker against the clock," Kincaid started to come back on him.

Knowing how great Kincaid's finish almost always is, I was thinking he could win it the whole time. But my god. 26.27 in a 12:51. That's WORLD CLASS. I mean that's gold medal type close, isn't it?

Yes, Iknow the penultimate 200 was 30.12 but 26.27 for a fianl 200 is awesome.

Results
1 Woody Kincaid NIKE 12:51.61 F 1
2 Joe Klecker On Athletics Club 12:54.99 1
3 Jonas Raess OAC/SUI 13:10.96 1
4 Dylan Jacobs Tennessee 13:11.01 1
5 Ben Flanagan On/CAN 13:11.12 1
6 Mike Foppen Bizz-Sports Management 13:11.60 1
7 Sam Parsons adidas 13:12.78 1
8 Geordie Beamish On Athletics Club 13:14.64 1
9 Morgan Beadlescomb adidas 13:15.82 1
10 Athanas Kioko Unattached 13:22.12 1
11 Wesley Kiptoo Hoka NAZ Elite 13:22.52 1
12 Eduardo Herrera UA DARK SKY DISTANCE 13:23.30 1
13 Mason Ferlic adidas 13:29.33 1
14 Willy Fink UA Baltimore Distance 13:43.21 1
15 Jean-Simon Desgagnes New Balance 13:55.17 1

Lap by lap splits here:

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3 years ago 01/27/2023 8:01pm EST

re: John Wesley Harding

John Wesley Harding wrote:
Silly wrote:
What kind of question is this?
Made me lol. Well done OP.

Couldn't even break 4 for the last 1600. Room for improvement.

3 years ago 01/27/2023 8:05pm EST

re: rojo

Despite the hot pace up front, or maybe because of it, very few people got the world standard

3 years ago 01/27/2023 8:08pm EST

Lade Llatt wrote:
Woody never gets drug tested and has some very suspcious fluctuations

Woody was almost 27 when he first broke 13 and he had a best of 13:27 at that time, I believe. Now Woody is 30 and running 12:51 indoors (which of course is faster at Boston than outdoors) but…

3 years ago 01/27/2023 8:14pm EST

tryingtobefast wrote:
its really easy to be a great racer when youve got anabolics and epo

Have you got substantial evidence for your accusations?

3 years ago 01/27/2023 8:15pm EST

re: 840FTL

3 years ago 01/27/2023 8:17pm EST

re: Yodel

Yodel wrote:
Woody was almost 27 when he first broke 13 and he had a best of 13:27 at that time, I believe. Now Woody is 30 and running 12:51 indoors (which of course is faster at Boston than outdoors) but…

AIU is going to be on him now I’d imagine. I think breaking up with Schumacher was huge, and now he’s not running 70% of Grants workouts, and instead crushing personalized workouts with Bosley et al.

3 years ago 01/27/2023 8:17pm EST

tryingtobefast wrote:
dude just lets klecker do all the work and takes the race last 200. kinda cheap. From doped running team if he left that makes sense but he's so gray area sneaky that he cant even announce that.
wouldn't expect anything less.
still impressive to close so fast and props to good guy Klecker for #3 american all-time indoors

Posts like this are just plain ridiculous. Go away.

3 years ago 01/27/2023 8:18pm EST

re: Evidencerer

Evidencerer wrote:
tryingtobefast wrote:
its really easy to be a great racer when youve got anabolics and epo
Have you got substantial evidence for your accusations?

lol if anyone had substantial evidence he would be banned. However, people don't just break out into the global scene at the tail end of their career. Woody was a nobody until the 12:58, then he was good. There was no in between. He has had career trajectory looks a lot like a lot of people who have tested positive :) .

If it looks like a duck, swims like a duck, and quacks like a duck, then it probably is a duck.

3 years ago 01/27/2023 8:22pm EST

re: tryingtobefast

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Woody Kincaid COMES FROM BEHIND To Break Grant Fisher's 5k American Record In 12:51!

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3 years ago 01/27/2023 8:22pm EST

Lade Llatt wrote:
Woody never gets drug tested and has some very suspcious fluctuations

If anything I’d say fluctuations in performances makes him LESS suspicious. Running crazy fast times for 6+ months straight is way more suspicious.

3 years ago 01/27/2023 8:27pm EST

re: 840FTL

Here are the =lap splits for Kincaid and how far ahead or behind he was of Klecker. The rabbitting was maestro as they started off slowish and worked their way into it.

Lap Split Cumulative Time Difference from Joe Klecker
200m 31.10 31.10 +0.69
400m 31.30 1:02.40 +1.07
600m 31.75 1:34.14 +0.51
800m 31.78 2:05.91 -0.14
1000m 31.72 2:37.63 -0.79
1200m 31.36 3:08.98 -1.35
1400m 31.96 3:40.94 -1.07
1600m 31.50 4:12.44 -0.64
1800m 30.76 4:43.19 -1.48
2000m 30.72 5:13.90 -2.03
2200m 30.43 5:44.33 -2.30
2400m 30.99 6:15.32 -2.09
2600m 30.80 6:46.11 -2.35
2800m 31.17 7:17.27 -2.22
3000m 31.07 7:48.34 -2.42
3200m 31.66 8:20.00 -2.09
3400m 31.40 8:51.39 -2.35
3600m 31.11 9:22.49 -2.64
3800m 30.69 9:53.18 -2.99
4000m 30.25 10:23.43 -3.43
4200m 30.22 10:53.64 -3.46
4400m 30.74 11:24.38 -3.13
4600m 30.85 11:55.23 -3.02
4800m 30.12 12:25.34 -3.75
5000m 26.27 12:51.61 -3.38

3 years ago 01/27/2023 8:33pm EST

Lade Llatt wrote:
Woody never gets drug tested and has some very suspcious fluctuations

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Statistics for how many times Olympic or Paralympic athletes have been tested by USADA. Athlete test history information for each individual athlete.

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3 years ago 01/27/2023 8:41pm EST

re: tryingtobefast

tryingtobefast wrote:
Evidencerer wrote:
Have you got substantial evidence for your accusations?
lol if anyone had substantial evidence he would be banned. However, people don't just break out into the global scene at the tail end of their career. Woody was a nobody until the 12:58, then he was good. There was no in between. He has had career trajectory looks a lot like a lot of people who have tested positive :) .
If it looks like a duck, swims like a duck, and quacks like a duck, then it probably is a duck.

Go back and do your homework, tough guy. You’re way off.

3 years ago 01/27/2023 8:42pm EST

re: seasoned ranker

Sam Parsons ran 13:12…are we sure they ran 5k?

3 years ago 01/27/2023 8:51pm EST

re: Swarthmore 5k PR

Swarthmore 5k PR wrote:
Sam Parsons ran 13:12…are we sure they ran 5k?

you mean the Sam Parsons that was in the world champs final 6 months ago?

3 years ago 01/27/2023 8:52pm EST

re: rojo

rojo wrote:
Here are the =lap splits for Kincaid and how far ahead or behind he was of Klecker.
4200m 30.22 10:53.64 -3.46
4400m 30.74 11:24.38 -3.13
4600m 30.85 11:55.23 -3.02
4800m 30.12 12:25.34 -3.75
5000m 26.27 12:51.61 -3.38

That might be the first time ever someone finished 3 seconds behind and still won.

3 years ago 01/27/2023 8:55pm EST

re: 840FTL

Amazing time. 4th all time behind the legends of Bekele, Geb, and Komen. Definitely the best race of his career so far. Hope we get to see him race a little more often

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