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3 years ago 01/01/2023 7:11pm EST

re: Do you have a blood draw ..?

Do you have a blood draw ..? wrote:
At your age, you should have your blood and urine looked at by medical professionals at least x 2 per year.
* A great diet can help balance the negative effects of alcohol consumption.
* Exercise can help balance the negative effects of alcohol consumption.
* Maintaining an athletic build can help balance the negative effects of alcohol consumption.
Your psychologist may have no issues with your alcohol consumption as long as you have less than 1000 beverages per year.
More likely than not, if you continue drinking the way you drink at your age, you will have bad labs. If you're lucky, slightly elevated fatty liver. You're playing Russian Roulette with cancer drinking as much as you drink at your age.

"Based on per capita consumption from alcoholic beverage sales data, the average American drinks roughly 1.35 drinks per day, 9.5 drinks per week and 494 drinks per year, said Aaron White, senior scientific advisor to the National Institute on Alcohol Abuse and Alcoholism director. But, White said that number is higher — 1.94 drinks a day, 13.6 per week and 705 a year when adjusting for age (looking at just adults 18 and older, the majority of the nation's drinkers)."

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3 years ago 01/01/2023 7:17pm EST

re: DanM

DanM wrote:
Lost beaver in Beagleton wrote:
Take it easy on your liver, Dan. We need sound minds and able bodies in the war against Big Pharma.
No worries. I turn 63 this year. Mickey Mantle made it to 63. My lifetime consumption probably isn't even 5% of what his was.
Link:vault.si.com/vault/1994/04/18/time-in-...

Not all livers are created equally, it's a crap shoot on the genetics. So yeah, someone can live to be 100 and drink every day and another can die at age 22 from liver failure after 1 night of overindulgence. Odds are you land somewhere between the 2; the question is... where? Looks like you are willing to gamble which is why I wish you all the luck in the world, because if you don't die early, it will be due to luck and not common sense.

3 years ago 01/01/2023 8:11pm EST

re: Lose the Booze

Lose the Booze wrote:
DanM wrote:
No worries. I turn 63 this year. Mickey Mantle made it to 63. My lifetime consumption probably isn't even 5% of what his was.
Link:vault.si.com/vault/1994/04/18/time-in-...
Not all livers are created equally, it's a crap shoot on the genetics. So yeah, someone can live to be 100 and drink every day and another can die at age 22 from liver failure after 1 night of overindulgence. Odds are you land somewhere between the 2; the question is... where? Looks like you are willing to gamble which is why I wish you all the luck in the world, because if you don't die early, it will be due to luck and not common sense.

You always live in fear? You're probably finishing off a cheeseburger reading this oblivious to the cancer risks of consuming read meat. Someone misinformed you on liver disease and moderate alcohol consumption. You can drink moderately and it has no impact on your liver.

3 years ago 01/01/2023 8:22pm EST

re: dstrainer

dstrainer wrote:
Lose the Booze wrote:
Not all livers are created equally, it's a crap shoot on the genetics. So yeah, someone can live to be 100 and drink every day and another can die at age 22 from liver failure after 1 night of overindulgence. Odds are you land somewhere between the 2; the question is... where? Looks like you are willing to gamble which is why I wish you all the luck in the world, because if you don't die early, it will be due to luck and not common sense.
You always live in fear? You're probably finishing off a cheeseburger reading this oblivious to the cancer risks of consuming read meat. Someone misinformed you on liver disease and moderate alcohol consumption. You can drink moderately and it has no impact on your liver.

Risk/reward. There are mostly men working in coal mines, working as lumberjacks, working as commercial deep sea fisherman. Men working in oil fields. Most men working on offshore oil rigs. These men are risking their lives and risking their health to earn more money for their families. I get it. Give us the cost (risk)/benefit (reward) rationale for o.p. to continue to drink as he is at his age?

3 years ago 01/01/2023 8:29pm EST

re: DanM

Congratulations, you are well on your way to having gout.

3 years ago 01/01/2023 9:05pm EST

re: DanM

Your numbers are pretty tame. I logged zero in 2022, but I am pretty certain I beat your 2022 numbers in the first 4 months of 2021. Haven’t had a drink since.

I don’t miss alcohol, except for the nice glass of red with a good meal. My problem is that it became 2 bottles of red after the good meal.

Nothing too concerning about 1.4 drinks per day, or even up to 3 drinks on the days that you drink.

3 years ago 01/01/2023 9:15pm EST

re: dstrainer

dstrainer wrote:
Lose the Booze wrote:
Not all livers are created equally, it's a crap shoot on the genetics. So yeah, someone can live to be 100 and drink every day and another can die at age 22 from liver failure after 1 night of overindulgence. Odds are you land somewhere between the 2; the question is... where? Looks like you are willing to gamble which is why I wish you all the luck in the world, because if you don't die early, it will be due to luck and not common sense.
You always live in fear? You're probably finishing off a cheeseburger reading this oblivious to the cancer risks of consuming read meat. Someone misinformed you on liver disease and moderate alcohol consumption. You can drink moderately and it has no impact on your liver.

WRONG, it has an impact on your liver, every single drop does, but for "most" people, the liver easily repairs that damage quickly. Your statement would be like saying that running has no effect on muscles, it certainly does but they also repair themselves easily. Alcohol absolutely damages the liver and unlike muscles, the process does not make it stronger.

Go read a book dummy!

3 years ago 01/01/2023 10:53pm EST

re: DanM

DanM wrote:
High end of moderate. I felt noticeably better on the mornings after a non-drinking day. Can't determine the effect drinking had on my running, but it was probably detrimental. Last race of the year was a 5K Turkey Trot in 26:39 at age 62. Did not drink for 14 days before that.
I probably should cut down slightly, but at this age, motivation is lacking. I'll run faster ? Big deal. I already beat most of the younger people in the few races I run, so all is well.
Days I drank: 219
Days I did not drink: 146
Beer 3368 oz. (26.3 gallons), 280.7 drinks (12 oz. per drink).
Red Wine 566.5 oz. (4.4 gallons), 113.3 drinks (5 oz. per drink).
White Wine 369.5 oz. (2.9 gallons), 73.9 drinks (5 oz. per drink).
Whiskey 69 oz. (0.54 gallons), 46 drinks (1.5 oz. per drink).
513.9 drinks in 365 days = 1.4 drinks per day.

Interesting that you took the time to log all this information. I rarely drink wine so my numbers would be much lower in that area. My beer, rum, and whiskey consumption would be quite a bit higher than your amounts. However, I'm a bit younger. Maybe by the time I reach your age I will be at about the same numbers.

3 years ago 01/01/2023 11:14pm EST

re: DanM

DanM wrote:
High end of moderate. I felt noticeably better on the mornings after a non-drinking day. Can't determine the effect drinking had on my running, but it was probably detrimental. Last race of the year was a 5K Turkey Trot in 26:39 at age 62. Did not drink for 14 days before that.
I probably should cut down slightly, but at this age, motivation is lacking. I'll run faster ? Big deal. I already beat most of the younger people in the few races I run, so all is well.
Days I drank: 219
Days I did not drink: 146
Beer 3368 oz. (26.3 gallons), 280.7 drinks (12 oz. per drink).
Red Wine 566.5 oz. (4.4 gallons), 113.3 drinks (5 oz. per drink).
White Wine 369.5 oz. (2.9 gallons), 73.9 drinks (5 oz. per drink).
Whiskey 69 oz. (0.54 gallons), 46 drinks (1.5 oz. per drink).
513.9 drinks in 365 days = 1.4 drinks per day.

Same age and same drinking level. I’ve noticed the same relationship between sleep and alcohol. I’ve decided independently to cut my consumption by about 90% - only having a drink with company - and not two drinks.

3 years ago 01/01/2023 11:19pm EST

re: DanM

DanM wrote:
Days I drank: 219
Days I did not drink: 146
Beer 3368 oz. (26.3 gallons), 280.7 drinks (12 oz. per drink).
Red Wine 566.5 oz. (4.4 gallons), 113.3 drinks (5 oz. per drink).
White Wine 369.5 oz. (2.9 gallons), 73.9 drinks (5 oz. per drink).
Whiskey 69 oz. (0.54 gallons), 46 drinks (1.5 oz. per drink).
513.9 drinks in 365 days = 1.4 drinks per day.

You gotta pump those numbers up, those are rookie numbers in this racket. My only resolution for 2022 was to drink at least 2022 beers and thanks to high volume summer I got there by Thanksgiving, so I could spend the rest of the holiday season just drinking for fun without worrying about having to keep the numbers up. No piss either, almost all quality stouts or IPAs. Finished the year with a kick with a mix 12-pack of Sierra Nevadas for NYE. It was an amazing year!

3 years ago 01/01/2023 11:51pm EST

re: Drinker with a Running Problem

Drinker with a Running Problem wrote:
DanM wrote:
High end of moderate. I felt noticeably better on the mornings after a non-drinking day. Can't determine the effect drinking had on my running, but it was probably detrimental. Last race of the year was a 5K Turkey Trot in 26:39 at age 62. Did not drink for 14 days before that.
I probably should cut down slightly, but at this age, motivation is lacking. I'll run faster ? Big deal. I already beat most of the younger people in the few races I run, so all is well.
Days I drank: 219
Days I did not drink: 146
Beer 3368 oz. (26.3 gallons), 280.7 drinks (12 oz. per drink).
Red Wine 566.5 oz. (4.4 gallons), 113.3 drinks (5 oz. per drink).
White Wine 369.5 oz. (2.9 gallons), 73.9 drinks (5 oz. per drink).
Whiskey 69 oz. (0.54 gallons), 46 drinks (1.5 oz. per drink).
513.9 drinks in 365 days = 1.4 drinks per day.
Interesting that you took the time to log all this information. I rarely drink wine so my numbers would be much lower in that area. My beer, rum, and whiskey consumption would be quite a bit higher than your amounts. However, I'm a bit younger. Maybe by the time I reach your age I will be at about the same numbers.

I read the LetsRun Dry January thread in December, 2021 and decided to log all my drinking for 2022. July/August was the most challenging. We had a brutally hot stretch that lasted 5 weeks. Too easy to suck down cold beers one right after the other. Had to make a disciplined effort to limit consumption. A beer followed by lots of water. Repeat.

3 years ago 01/01/2023 11:57pm EST

re: DanM

DanM wrote:
Do you have a blood draw ..? wrote:
At your age, you should have your blood and urine looked at by medical professionals at least x 2 per year.
* A great diet can help balance the negative effects of alcohol consumption.
* Exercise can help balance the negative effects of alcohol consumption.
* Maintaining an athletic build can help balance the negative effects of alcohol consumption.
Your psychologist may have no issues with your alcohol consumption as long as you have less than 1000 beverages per year.
More likely than not, if you continue drinking the way you drink at your age, you will have bad labs. If you're lucky, slightly elevated fatty liver. You're playing Russian Roulette with cancer drinking as much as you drink at your age.
"Based on per capita consumption from alcoholic beverage sales data, the average American drinks roughly 1.35 drinks per day, 9.5 drinks per week and 494 drinks per year, said Aaron White, senior scientific advisor to the National Institute on Alcohol Abuse and Alcoholism director. But, White said that number is higher — 1.94 drinks a day, 13.6 per week and 705 a year when adjusting for age (looking at just adults 18 and older, the majority of the nation's drinkers)."
Link:www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation-now...

man that is a lot of booze. A lot more than I would have thought

3 years ago 01/01/2023 11:59pm EST

re: DanM

DanM wrote:
Do you have a blood draw ..? wrote:
At your age, you should have your blood and urine looked at by medical professionals at least x 2 per year.
* A great diet can help balance the negative effects of alcohol consumption.
* Exercise can help balance the negative effects of alcohol consumption.
* Maintaining an athletic build can help balance the negative effects of alcohol consumption.
Your psychologist may have no issues with your alcohol consumption as long as you have less than 1000 beverages per year.
More likely than not, if you continue drinking the way you drink at your age, you will have bad labs. If you're lucky, slightly elevated fatty liver. You're playing Russian Roulette with cancer drinking as much as you drink at your age.
"Based on per capita consumption from alcoholic beverage sales data, the average American drinks roughly 1.35 drinks per day, 9.5 drinks per week and 494 drinks per year, said Aaron White, senior scientific advisor to the National Institute on Alcohol Abuse and Alcoholism director. But, White said that number is higher — 1.94 drinks a day, 13.6 per week and 705 a year when adjusting for age (looking at just adults 18 and older, the majority of the nation's drinkers)."
Link:www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation-now...

I wonder what would happen to the numbers if you adjusted for the people who don’t drink at all due to religious , cultural, or health reasons, or whatever. While a small minority, they are out there. That would mean that those who are left are actually drinking even more than it would appear.

3 years ago 01/01/2023 11:59pm EST

re: DanM

3 years ago 01/02/2023 12:50am EST

re: DanM

DanM wrote:
High end of moderate. I felt noticeably better on the mornings after a non-drinking day. Can't determine the effect drinking had on my running, but it was probably detrimental. Last race of the year was a 5K Turkey Trot in 26:39 at age 62. Did not drink for 14 days before that.
I probably should cut down slightly, but at this age, motivation is lacking. I'll run faster ? Big deal. I already beat most of the younger people in the few races I run, so all is well.
Days I drank: 219
Days I did not drink: 146
Beer 3368 oz. (26.3 gallons), 280.7 drinks (12 oz. per drink).
Red Wine 566.5 oz. (4.4 gallons), 113.3 drinks (5 oz. per drink).
White Wine 369.5 oz. (2.9 gallons), 73.9 drinks (5 oz. per drink).
Whiskey 69 oz. (0.54 gallons), 46 drinks (1.5 oz. per drink).
513.9 drinks in 365 days = 1.4 drinks per day.

I'll disregard the anti-vaccine quackery, but, come on, bragging about "already beating most of the younger people" when you're running a 26:39 5k? You really are insufferable. Even at 62 that's embarrassing. Not for the general population, but definitely for a delusional braggart on a running website. Ever hear of running faster as a personal challenge? For fitness? For fun? For competition? Isn't that why all of us (except the pros) do it? If finishing mid-pack or worse with the hobby-joggers means "all is well" then what's your interest in running in the first place? Why do you spend time on this site? To act as a right-wing troll?

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