Is a 12 min mile jogging or walking?

You better believe that's jogging straightshooter! The dude is freaking 68 yrs old & can cover a mile in 12 mins!

I'm 61 & all busted up from 3 decades of hard running & racing. I can barely cover a mile around 11 mins without stopping. I've got arthritis in most of my joints & I'm towing 175 lbs on a 5-6 frame.

If you young bucks run hard enough & long enough, most of you will end up broken down by the time you get into your 50s & certainly in your 60s (just go look at the over 50 "Grand Master's" thread & see how broken down all those avid runners are - it's unbelievable!).

Any dude over 60 that can jog a mile in 12 mins or less is very impressive & worthy of great praise. 🙌

Just go look at the majority of men over 60 in this country - overweight/obese, out-of-shape, chronic illnesses, metabolic disorders, dependence on multi-pharmaceuticals just to stay alive & so forth.

60 yr old dudes that can still run rock! 💪

12:00 mile at age 68 is equivalent to 8:58 for a young runner. (0.7479 is the age grade percentage for a 10k run, for 68 years old).

Jog/shuffle

OP here. I'm a 60 year old man that had to move to cycling 35 years ago after knee surgery. Had I been able to continue running, I have no idea what pace I might run now (my 10K PR was a mediocre 33:10) . I threw out the question just to see the range of responses. I wasn't disappointed.

The only people who believe this have never put on a Garmin and tried walking for an extended distance at these paces. Walking with other people drives me up the wall because most people walk considerably slower than 3 mph.

I'm pretty sure it's jogging. I can't imagine a 68 year old man walking at 12 min mile pace.

While recovering from a knee injury, I did race walking for a while. Walking an 11 minute mile was harder than running a much faster mile. If his knees are bending, then he's jogging, not walking.

That’s a good point.

I see it differently. I’m close to 60 and I can walk a mile in the low 10:00’s (faster if I practice a few days/weeks). I can run a mile in the low 6:00’s. Yes I’m a former racewalker but I haven’t done racewalking technique for a mile in years ( it would strain my hamstrings unless I spent weeks building up to it), so I think there is running, there is racewalking ( straight leg requirement, and probably not “lifting” at paces slower than 7:00 if you have good technique), and then there is really fast bent knee walking that isn’t legal racewalking but it’s definitely not jogging and if you saw it you would say, “look at that guy walk fast, what’s he doing.” The bent knee fast walking is tiring, and it’s great cross training for running.

Lots of factors to consider. It'll be a different answer for different people.

That's about the pace where your valet jogs to get your merceded

Ridiculous that you assert that “for most 60+ guys, 12 minute mile pace is a slow jog”. I guess it’s your way of humble bragging about your own ( admittedly impressive) shape at 67.

"Is a 12 min mile jogging or walking?"

Yes.

That’s the simple answer. Same answer if it was jogging or running. Really it depends on the person and the mission. I would call it jogging. Running? Will let you answer when you are 68. 😀

If you are in your 80's, it's probably sprinting

Well, I'm 83 and run hills and dales, roads and trails at about 12 minute miles. In races, I eek under 10 minutes a mile for half marathons and run around 9:15 for 5Ks. But for sprint finishes I reach a pace around 8 minutes. At this point it is all vanity age group theatrics, but it keeps me going to national championships. Hope to run the world masters in Torun, Poland, at the end of March, but just recovered from Covid so we'll see.

66 can run a sub 6 mile and often jog 12 min miles even slower

I get a kick out of walkers passing me a grizzly old man trying to run LOL

Lots of Benefits easy on the legs gets the blood circulating gently landing kinda like a fighter hitting the bag bare fisted after awhile makes em tough. The biggest falsehood wrong turn to training is buying into the aerobic development starts at 60percen of max hr lot of crap.

And 9 mpm is a reasonable "easy" pace for a man in his prime. Not for a world class runner or D1 runner or superstar, but for Joe Schmo, it's a very reasonable pace.

I normally run my easy runs at 10 - 10:30 mpm. 5K race pace is 7:00. When I was pregnant, I slowed to around 12 mpm, and believe me, it was definitely running. My pregnant belly felt the bouncing big time. At the end of pregnancy, I switched to walking and found a brisk walk (while 7-9 months pregnant) was 18-19 mpm.

Walking at 12 mpm would be quite difficult.

Also, when I was pregnant and running 11-12 mpm, the only runners I passed were old men. Everyone else was passing me.

Old women, as a general rule, do not run. I'm not sure if that's because women who are old now didn't have the type of sports opportunities that men did, or women do today, or if it's just a reflection of the fact that

(a) 12 mpm for a man is equivalent to 15+ mpm for a woman, and it's hardly worth running at that point - might as well speed walk

(b) just women generally degrade more physically after menopause than men do. Though women live longer, so maybe not.

I got 3 downvotes for this (maybe used a diff name when I posted). So- what’s objectionable?