Hocker would have smoked Ingebrigtsen

Who is Hocker? I only follow athletes at WC level.

Americans are so stupid and entitled saying things like this. Firstly, Ingebrigsten is on another planet compared to the long haired kick merchant who hardly ever races. If you had actually watched Euro XC you'd have seen the course was a proper XC course, involving huge, steep hills most Americans wouldn't dream of running on, not a glorified track course like many of those in the states. Also the distances were significantly different. As a matter of fact, USA can't even compete at any level with European distance runners at the moment. Ingebrigsten is just the top of a long list of Europeans that would smoke all the top American middle/long distance runners. Even the best up and coming long distance/XC guy Charles Hicks(who has destroyed the likes of Hocker and Teare over long distances in the past) is representing his country of Birth GB rather than USA. Europe reigns supreme.

Also I know its satire but there's no point ever comparing these guys.

The US needs to turn on the doping green light. The dirty secret in Europe is that govt authorities in Norway, Spain, GB, Italy, etc want their athletes to use peds and have told them they have their backs. They want to win. I guess Inge being able to beat the East Africans at their own game is a positive development overall. But who are we kidding?

The light is already on bro. Where do you think 14:23 and 12:46 came from?

If everyone else is playing, the US needs to cheat better. I think right now the signals are still mixed. Cannot go all in.

"Your move Jakob!" 🤣

Hocker won a race wearing Vaporflys. Don't insult the sport by calling that cross country

Lmao, US athletes dont dope at all you say? What a joke

Hocker's time at 6 or 5.95 miles or whatever would be closer to a 27:45 or so for 10K. Not bad. Jacob probably sub 27.

Do you really think Hocker ran 26 something in an X-C race?

Seriously?

Are you kidding me?

That being said, I love seeing him step up and run X-C just as Jakob does. It is the BEST late fall early winter workout phase for middle/distance runners.

Is all terrain pretty much the same?

Get a sense of humor. The OP and others here are joking. They know that Ingebrigtsen is much better at every distance over 800m right now and that Club Nationals xc was short, between 5.8 and 6.0 miles, as well as nearly flat. However, Hocker is pretty good. He ran 3:31 in the Olympics at 20. He wasn't healthy this year. With health next year, he might break 3:30. If he doesn't, he should jump ship and get himself some top training partners like Teare did.

Grant Fisher is competing pretty well with Europeans. 7:28/12:46/26:33 ranks right up there.

"Hocker would have smoked Ingebrigtsen"

Not without Pookie's okay.

Its not any if those countries that supplies its athletes with burritos.

Chill out. I know that British people rely on America as the alterity to confirm their identity, but to real Europeans, you're neither European nor significantly less entitled than you claim Americans are.

I reckon he's saying the Euro Course was short because it was advertised as short.

If you were watching the stream, the graphic at the start showed that it was 9,572 metres.

I agree that the cross-country course that the open races, both men and women, were drastically simplified and made much faster by putting those two races on only the partly-paved, dirt-covered oval track around the Polo Fields in Golden Gate Park. Much riskier, scarier and much more true to CROSS COUNTRY, in comparison, was the original course contested by us, the Masters women, of which I was one, running that rainstorm-battered day in San francisco, a couple hours before the open races. We Masters women were the ones who had to run that 6k Cross Country course in all its brutality, and it was very dangerous and very difficult. Deep mud, loose rocks, wet dirt, exposed roots, flying branches, slippery leaves and bark debris, hidden potholes in puddles 12 inches deep, steep hills, sharp valleys, wood chips, gargantuan slopes and grassy swamps, waterlogged and cold and windy, and in a rain so strong, one's vision got compromised. Tough gals, each and every one of us, but if we had to run it, why not the Open women, for their 6k? If we Masters women were given the chance to run solely (and safely) on the oval track, our times would each have been faster by at least two or three minutes!