Yes I would. I believe he was a clean runner. Was elite at every stage since middle school. trained so hard he ran himself Into the ground.
if he was dirty he would have sustained higher highs in his performances.
I think there is a better than average chance he was clean, but I wouldn't bet my life savings on anyone.
If he is now doing something as an influencer, I have no issue there. He isn't competing for money or fame, just getting paid to be famous. As someone else mentioned, the word was at the end of his career that he had low T and didn't want to take anything and compete, I can buy that but of course I've been suckered before.
Ryan Hall is still in fact in his career right now. He is making money as an IG physical fitness influencer. And he is clearly doping. The fact that no running journalist has exposed this is pathetic
This is the question for me. He doesn't seem like the type who would have doped during his professional running career. But his post-running development doesn't seem consistent with a life free of anabolic and androgenic supplements. And if he's taking such supplements, I think it's important that he admit it or that it be seriously investigated -- not because it may be "cheating," but because falsely denying it or even refusing to speak fully and honestly about it could be seriously harmful and deceptive to many people, and because many have a legitimate interest in who this man is and what he stands for. I, for one, would love to believe that he's not using anabolic or androgenic supplements, but that seems inconsistent or at least a bit at odds with a lot of textbook physiological assumptions about what different bodies (for instance, bodies of world-class marathoners who are six feet tall and 130 pounds in their thirties) are capable of. So, to be clear, I am not agreeing with your assessment that he is "clearly doping," or that it is "pathetic" that no running journalist has exposed this purported doping. I am not even certain that the use of anabolic or androgenic supplements is properly categorized as "doping" outside a system of rules and regulations that Ryan is presumably no longer bound by. But there is a set of important truths here that are worth being revealed.
I think the fact that he is clearly doping now makes it more likely that he was in his running career as well
Why is this? I've always thought the opposite: the fact that he said he had low-T (and seemed to), retired, and now is very likely taking T and other things is a reason to believe he did not take them during his career.
I guess it depends what you think caused the low-T. Potentially, it could have been thyroid hormone or some other grey-area drug. But in any case, doesn't this show a clear line being drawn where Hall decided he wanted/needed to take banned substances, and chose to retire so that he could do so legally?
He had some amazing performances, but never really had that invincible doper vibe. I could see a hugely talented runner who happened to take advantage when the conditions were perfect (Houston Half, Boston tailwind). Meb beat up on him more than a few times.
But it would be impossible to say with 100% certainly a world class runner is 100% clean.
Ryan Hall is still in fact in his career right now. He is making money as an IG physical fitness influencer. And he is clearly doping. The fact that no running journalist has exposed this is pathetic
Why would anyone care if someone is making money off of instagram? Those poor clean influencers that he is victimizing! haha.... let's concentrate on cleaning up sports first.
I was a naive teen during the Armstrong era and thought the exact same thing. He was a national level triathlete during high school, of course he could be a world champion cyclist later! Being awesome at one point does not mean no drugs later.
I believe that he was clean. If I were 20 years younger I’d bet my retirement savings on it. At my age that would be crazy thought - my retirement savings works out to quite a bit of money, and I wouldn’t have much time to recoup anything I lost.
Ryan Hall is still in fact in his career right now. He is making money as an IG physical fitness influencer. And he is clearly doping. The fact that no running journalist has exposed this is pathetic
This is the question for me. He doesn't seem like the type who would have doped during his professional running career. But his post-running development doesn't seem consistent with a life free of anabolic and androgenic supplements. And if he's taking such supplements, I think it's important that he admit it or that it be seriously investigated -- not because it may be "cheating," but because falsely denying it or even refusing to speak fully and honestly about it could be seriously harmful and deceptive to many people, and because many have a legitimate interest in who this man is and what he stands for. I, for one, would love to believe that he's not using anabolic or androgenic supplements, but that seems inconsistent or at least a bit at odds with a lot of textbook physiological assumptions about what different bodies (for instance, bodies of world-class marathoners who are six feet tall and 130 pounds in their thirties) are capable of. So, to be clear, I am not agreeing with your assessment that he is "clearly doping," or that it is "pathetic" that no running journalist has exposed this purported doping. I am not even certain that the use of anabolic or androgenic supplements is properly categorized as "doping" outside a system of rules and regulations that Ryan is presumably no longer bound by. But there is a set of important truths here that are worth being revealed.
I basically agree with this, though I can believe that he is still “clean.” Whilst transforming one’s self from puny distance runner to big buff stud is distinctly not normal, I can’t think of other examples of world class distance runners who fully retired from running while still relatively young and then decided to channel all of the energy they used to bring to their 140-mile weeks to getting huge instead. I don’t think anybody really has any idea how big some random 2:05 guy could get if they decided to stop training to run and train equally hard to get huge instead.
No, I would not bet that. First of all, there's just too much of it out there that I don't trust anyone, but secondly, betting is low class, and Flagpole doesn't do low class.
Ryan and Terrance’s group saw Dr. Brown and rode the blurry line of what is doping. And today as a man approaching 40 I wish Hall would be honest that he’s using T. Still, I always respect the physical drive this man has which inspires.
I think the fact that he is clearly doping now makes it more likely that he was in his running career as well
So, how would someone actually get the so called supplements?
Go to the local anti-aging clinic and you will get a prescription for T. Odds are his gym has a couple guys with contacts for the other stuff. Access to drugs isn't a limiting factor...
This is the question for me. He doesn't seem like the type who would have doped during his professional running career. But his post-running development doesn't seem consistent with a life free of anabolic and androgenic supplements. And if he's taking such supplements, I think it's important that he admit it or that it be seriously investigated -- not because it may be "cheating," but because falsely denying it or even refusing to speak fully and honestly about it could be seriously harmful and deceptive to many people, and because many have a legitimate interest in who this man is and what he stands for. I, for one, would love to believe that he's not using anabolic or androgenic supplements, but that seems inconsistent or at least a bit at odds with a lot of textbook physiological assumptions about what different bodies (for instance, bodies of world-class marathoners who are six feet tall and 130 pounds in their thirties) are capable of. So, to be clear, I am not agreeing with your assessment that he is "clearly doping," or that it is "pathetic" that no running journalist has exposed this purported doping. I am not even certain that the use of anabolic or androgenic supplements is properly categorized as "doping" outside a system of rules and regulations that Ryan is presumably no longer bound by. But there is a set of important truths here that are worth being revealed.
I basically agree with this, though I can believe that he is still “clean.” Whilst transforming one’s self from puny distance runner to big buff stud is distinctly not normal, I can’t think of other examples of world class distance runners who fully retired from running while still relatively young and then decided to channel all of the energy they used to bring to their 140-mile weeks to getting huge instead. I don’t think anybody really has any idea how big some random 2:05 guy could get if they decided to stop training to run and train equally hard to get huge instead.
Fair enough. I do seem to recall that a number of highly mesomorphic athletes have rather high percentages of slow-twitch muscle fiber; perhaps Ryan's almost certainly high percentage of slow-twitch fiber wouldn't preclude a large buildup of muscle mass, at least when combined with an increase in testosterone to relatively normal levels that might naturally occur when running mileage is greatly reduced or eliminated. At the same time, he retired from competitive running at a rather late age; such large increases in muscle mass at such an age, without any anabolic or androgenic hormonal supplementation, seems awfully unusual if not unprecedented. Ryan seems like a decent guy not inclined toward dishonesty; I'd really like to learn more, especially if his bones and connective tissue were able to adapt to the much higher loading forces that he now submits himself to in training (and his various "feats of strength"). I think this could be a very significant scientific inquiry, perhaps most of all in the very perplexing quest for increased bone and connective tissue strength and function late in life.
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