Henry Marsh Interval Sessions

When you're in Europe and you see a top dog doing a weorkout of only 2 time 400 in 60 you better believe that guy is on top of his game. He obviously knew he was ready to rock and didn't need to show off to himself or anybody else.

I read his self-help book ( kind of like Tony Robbins but far less corny and more condensed). I thought it was very interesting how in college on his own he adapted his stride to be more on his toes. He kind of bounced and never looked very smooth the whole race back there near the back. But on that last lap he was all aggressive power and speed.

I saw one of his toughest moments in Indy when he was back in 5th place and had a rough last water jump. He almost bit it and regrouped and tore down that last stretch to get his spot on the team.

I still feel a little bad for him in LA when he was sick. Lost the medal at the end to another American-Diemer.

i thought he lost that medal because of water pit 'difficulties'. malmo...?

johnny utah wrote:

i thought he lost that medal because of water pit 'difficulties'. malmo...?

That was the 81 World Cup

1 Boguslaw Maminski EUR 8.19.89

2 Mariano Scartezzini ITA 8.19.93

3 Masanari Shintaku ASI 8.23.64

4 Ralf Ponitzsch GDR 8.24.13

5 Gregory Duhaime AME 8.25.12

6 Sergey Yepishin URS 8.28.78

7 Eshetu Tura AFR 8.35.23

8 Peter Larkins OCE 8.39.63

Henry Marsh USA DSQ(8.19.63)

oldieguy wrote:

there was no running him down the last lap...hence he was the best in the world..

5 Americans have gunned him down in the last lap. Brown (twice), Malley, Addison, Diemer (twice) and Abshire. 7 losses to Americans in his career is impressive.

I obviously meant in his prime.....not in the early years or at the end of his career...

Actually lost to another American besides those you mentioned.....hint: in '76 after the Olympics

Brown (76, 80), Malley (77), Addison (77), Diemer (84, 87), Abshire (88).

The suspense is killing me, who beat Marsh in 1976 and where?

Drug use wouldn't be enough to bring someone that lightly trained to consistent 8:15-20 every year and an 8:09.

Like Malmo said "freak of nature". One that found his athletic calling.

Several weeks after Montreal at the old US/USSR meet at the University of Maryland...the Russians went 1,2....Mike Roche was 3rd and Marsh 4th...all in relatively slow times..8:30's-8:40's I believe..

Happened to be reading old T&FN or RW at a friends the other day...noticed this result..only because times were so slow post Montreal.

Nope. Never happened. I've TOLD jokes and stories that went over people's heads, though.

Don Fagan wrote:

So this is the same Horton who was at Brandis and was under Bowerman's coaching around 80' ?

If you could dig up those workouts from 80' that Horton and Marsh did that would be greatly appreciated. Did you run with these guys when you were in Eugene at the time ? I heard that these guys ( Horton and Marsh while at law school U of O only did 35 - 45 miles per week ?)

Same Chris Horton from Brandeis. Yes I trained with Bowerman's group about a halfr dozen times. The workouts:

3 mile warm-up; 3 x 600 (1:38), 1 x 400 (62), 2 x 200 (30), 4 mile warm-down

3 mile warm-up; 2 x 400 (64, 64), 1200 (3:17), 80 (2:18), 2 x 400 (60, 59);

4 mile warm-up; 600 (1:38), 400 (63), 200 (28), 600 (1:36), 400 (62)

4 mile warm-up; 800 (2:03), 400 (60), 400 (60); 6 mile warm-down

4 mile warm-up; 400 (58), 800 (2:10), 800 (2:10), 3 x 200 (28, 28, 27), 600-400-200 at :70 pace; 3 mile warm-down

3 mile warm-up; 4 x 300-200 (46, 27), 800 jog, 2 x 800 hurdles (2:20)

oldieguy wrote:

Several weeks after Montreal at the old US/USSR meet at the University of Maryland...the Russians went 1,2....Mike Roche was 3rd and Marsh 4th...all in relatively slow times..8:30's-8:40's I believe..

Happened to be reading old T&FN or RW at a friends the other day...noticed this result..only because times were so slow post Montreal.

Interesting, I was there and I missed it. I'll have to ask Miguel about it.

thanks Malmo.

Was Marsh in these workouts too ? I'm guessing that

the warm up and warm downs were yours. I'd find it

hard to believe Henry running 6 miles after a workout

maybe 1 mile or so.

Also would be interesting to see if these workouts were during track season. I know that December was usually the time Bowerman started Marsh on truly reps. Before Dec I think he really only did easy 200's to keep some form of maintenance along with very easy short runs say 2 AM - 3 PM

all on that f****ing treadmill of his :)

Don Fagan wrote:

Was Marsh in these workouts too ? I'm guessing that

the warm up and warm downs were yours. I'd find it

hard to believe Henry running 6 miles after a workout

maybe 1 mile or so.

I guess is correct on the warmup/down. To tell you the truth I do not remember which workouts Dinwoody ran. Those were the Bowerman group workouts. The group was a somewhat motley crew.

Dinwoody... that's funny. Was that his knickname ?

He seemed to be the epitome of big man on campus - football jock - Mormon poster boy

Malmo --

You probably did those workouts with Horton though. He seemed to run moderate volume yet quick track sessions.

I can recall when he started with " the old sage" he

was only allowed 2x800 @2:20 followed by 2-4x200M

30 w/ full recovery. That's a god awful easy workout...

Probably was not as hard as Don Clary's warm up !

Don Fagan wrote:

Dinwoody... that's funny. Was that his knickname ?

He seemed to be the epitome of big man on campus - football jock - Mormon poster boy

Middle name. As I understand it, his great grandfather Dinwoody was pretty well connected in the LDS chruch - hence the caffeine exemption. Although I think some of the Mormons might point out that caffiene isn't really proscribed by the chruch, there's just strong encouragement to avoid it.

Interesting to observe Dinwoody and the Reverend Jeff Wells in theological debate mode.

That makes sense. However the Mormons escue coffee, booze yet they certainly pile on the donuts

Jeff Wells.. that's a blast from the past. Nike OTC marathon days ala Sandoval

Did you ever do any regular runs with Marsh & Co ? It was probably your warm up distance in relation to Henry's regular run on off track days

I was always curious about how fast Marsh etc...ran their last laps....obviously it differs race to race..

I know Shaheed ran under 60 for his WR...(57?)...

Just curious

Best thread on here in weeks if not months.