Texas HS girls still running 3k for xc - What a joke!

Abandon a family recently?

Overly cautious? No. The UIL in Texas is overly couldn't-care-less-about-the-real-girl-runners and is overly want-to-lead-the-sport-from-the-bottom-up.

Why else do they insist on limiting our girls from being on a competitive level with the rest of the country? How does this affect Texas HS girls when college recruiters are looking? The UIL doesn't care, they just want a bunch of fat-assed, lazy, can't-play-volleyball girls to get a few months of condition in before the the only *real* school sport season for girls - BASKETBALL. The almighty and only girls sport to the Texas HS administrators.

MAKE CROSS COUNTRY A RUNNER'S SPORT, please

If you aint no punk holla "We Want 5K, "WE WANT 5K!", Yeaah.

It's something that you need to have,

Cause when she leave fo college, she only running half...

Kanye Western Music wrote:

MAKE CROSS COUNTRY A RUNNER'S SPORT, please

If you aint no punk holla "We Want 5K, "WE WANT 5K!", Yeaah.

It's something that you need to have,

Cause when she leave fo college, she only running half...

That is classic! It is almost as if "Golddigga" was written for these words and this song!

I think they should maybe be looking at the program that they use in Ontario where they run different races based on your age. For Girls: Gr9=3k, Gr10=4k, Gr11-12=5k, and for the guys: Gr9=5k, Gr10=6k, Gr11-12=7k.

This system also allows for runners to transition into university a little better than it does in the states.

I agree that it's a joke to have the girls run only 2 miles. Also, as someone else pointed out, if you moved to 5K, many, many, many girls would quit. The ones that "only want a letter jacket" or "only run because the basketball coach makes me" would quit in a heartbeat. To me, that's all the more reason to move the distance up. Eliminating some of the riff raff from cross country will help the sport gain a little more respect. It will help it be seen as a "real" sport, and not just something to be used to get in shape for basketball.

Here is something for the UIL and Texas ADs to consider:

Make Texas girls basketball a no-cut sport and they have to play on a court with baskets at 6' high.

Would they go for this? Heck no! That is exactly what they are doing to Texas girls in xc by limiting them to 2 miles. Texas HS girls only run 2/3 the distance of what 94% of the rest of the country runs.

goat boy wrote:

I agree that it's a joke to have the girls run only 2 miles. Also, as someone else pointed out, if you moved to 5K, many, many, many girls would quit. The ones that "only want a letter jacket" or "only run because the basketball coach makes me" would quit in a heartbeat. To me, that's all the more reason to move the distance up. Eliminating some of the riff raff from cross country will help the sport gain a little more respect. It will help it be seen as a "real" sport, and not just something to be used to get in shape for basketball.

Or we could just post a giant "KEEP OUT" sign at the door to the sport...whichever works for you.

Indiana is 4k for girls.

4K is better than 3 miles. 4K xc is like girls playing basketball with a 8' high hoop. It's not quite 10', better certainly better than the ridiculous 6' hoop that the UIL limits the girls to...

Them girls need to run a real distance, at least 4K if you can't give them 5K. Come on.

In high school I ran at a rural track meet where the longest distance for women was 800m. It had been that way for decades when anything longer was considered too far for a woman to run.

I don't think that within 5 years, increasing the h.s. distance to 5K will decrease the total amount of female participants in the state. Do TX, KS and the other state (I just forget which one) have a much larger amount of female h.s. cross-country runners per capita than other states? If not, then it's obvious that a longer racing distance doesn't decrease participation.

The small school coaches are to GD lazy to recruit. Nobody really cares about 3-A on down in Texas. They rarely produce any girls that will ever be recruited by a D1 team let alone produce for them.

Here is how it works in Texas. There are something like 220 schools per class. They break it down to where everything is as close as they can get for each class. Sad thing is for example is that in 1-A you can have 30 up to 200. And on up the line. A 4-A school can have as few as I think 950 and as many as 1800. 5-A 1900 up to 4,000. So it isn't fair by any means. They need to do it like the government. Have a senate, give them 1 vote per school and a house based on school size 1-10 votes per school. Then vote on the distance the girls run. I know the big time 5-A girls all run at least 3 5-K races per year where they are offered just to get their names out there.

As someone said the small school girls are usually the girls that can't hack it in volleyball, so they are in XC. But sadly all 2-A and under schools don't have volleyball. If I were some of the parents in those schools without VB I would raise hell about that. So we are stuck in the stoneage here to the detriment of the big school girls because the in the scheme of things the small school coaches that really do care about XC would vote to move the distance up to 5-K. They know if you can run a measly 2 miles you can damn sure run 3.

Let the varsity girls run 5K. You can still let the jv and frosh girls run 2 miles. I think alot of frosh boys races are 2 miles when they have them, right?

A lot of Texas invitationals let varsity girls run 5K and they're popular. Does the UIL not get it?

The results of the TCGA poll are laughable. Look at high number of small school coaches against the 5K and and the high number of large school coaches for the 5K.

To further explain the poll results, find out which of the xc coaches polled also coach basketball! On the girls side in Texas that will be a high number, especially so at the smaller schools.

THE Problem is wrote:

Have a senate, give them 1 vote per school and a house based on school size 1-10 votes per school. Then vote on the distance the girls run.

Yeah, THERE is a great allocation of resources.

Whataburger wrote:

Texas HS girls only run 2/3 the distance of what 94% of the rest of the country runs.

Yeah, such a travesty. Choosing a different distance would mean a whole lot less than just improving the coaching that most girls get under the UIL. Few coaches recruit based on c-c times, anyway, it's track times that get the biggest consideration and then it's competitiveness (i.e. placing) in c-c that gets looked at.

oklahoma still does it too, thats why x and ok girls choke at footlocker because its their first 5k of the year its f***ing stupid. But Oklahoma is still the shit f*** everyone

soonerorlater wrote:

its their first 5k of the year

So you're saying that girls with the potential to qualify to nationals haven't run a 5k and couldn't train for it?

Wuh? wrote:

Beanfontaine wrote:

you guys dont know anything about whats going on with the Texas issue of girls running 2 miles. I do, cause ive been hearing the debate about this since i was a sophmore..so shut up please. Theres alot more going on here than you think.

hey Bean, Let us know then.

no, because

a. its none of your business

b. its none of your business

Then butt the fizzuck out!