This is one of tracks dirty secrets since times started to drop around 2017 or so .
How did other Canadian mo get so fast
Or fisher .
That explains last years sudden rise of JN. Out of literally nowhere breaking 4:00. And obviously without it now, can’t repeat last years success if her life depended on it.
Actually I think Knight may be the fastest clean guy if anything. There's no way Jakob or Cheptegai ain't saucing. I've followed pro sports my whole life and have an expertise in human physiology to back up these claims.
I assume he's injured. We all knew he was talented, but then 12:51 was just flabbergasting, a huge, huge drop, though not as flabbergasting as Katir. I hope he returns to health. No reason that he couldn't medal someday the way he dropped time from college.
If you think it was flabbergasting, you didn’t know much about him. Extremely talented from day 1, doesn’t race a lot, low mileage, great racer, wasn’t in 5k time trial/fast races/great weather often if at all. I think he’s been top 10 in world 5000 3x at a fairly young age. He has IG stories a lot- if you follow him and check the stories, you’ll see. There is even a YouTube video where he explains his injury and rehab and a day in the life type video. He will be back and will compete for global medals- lots of years left.
The likes on that post and others surprised at his 12:51 show why I was shocked at this performance. This is a guy who was outkicked by Drew Hunter when the latter was a junior and Knight a senior. All of a sudden he runs two seconds faster than Bernard Lagat's American record, two seconds faster than Grant Fisher's indoor record??? Looking back, it is just as shocking. He had a pr of 3:36 from 2018. Prior to 2018, it was 3:39. Then in 2021, he runs 3:33.4 in May! His 3k pr to this day is 7:44i. That time was in the Winter of 2021. But prior to that he'd run 7:45 and 7:46. 12:51 is comparable to maybe 7:28. He'd run the 5000m a bunch of times before and his pr entering 2021 was 13:09.76 in 2019. That's slower than Chris Derrick ran the 5000m right after college. Derrick never improved but Knight dropped 18 seconds from a performance that was itself 8 seconds faster than he'd run in college. So, he dropped 26 seconds in the 5000m from college, and 18 of those seconds were in one race. And he was training with a minor group with, to my knowledge, no other training partners anywhere comparable. Who would reasonably expect anything like that? Great for him, and I hope he gets back healthy to do it again. Just don't tell me no one should have been shocked.
Ok, so other people underestimated him too lol. I certainly didnt judge his potential based on getting beat by drew hunter- in high school. JK was way undertrained in high school. He’s a multiple ncaa champion with big range and has done well in every global opportunity (top 10). And the fact that he is the best runner in his training group doesn’t matter to me. You probably think I was wrong (or lucky, I guess) to think he could run that fast. Maybe so. We’ll see how he does in the future. I’m betting it will be really good and someday you’ll say “I’m not surprised, remember he ran 12:51 a few years ago”. maybe I will be wrong. We will enjoy watching the journey, I hope.
Guy is in his mid 20s? Needed some time away to get 100% and make a solid run for 2024 - nothing shocking here. He may never drop 12:5x again but he can make more teams.
Guy has apparently never trained at altitude either, or used an altitude tent. So he probably needs to get that done in moving forward.
But why does this thread come up every month it seems? Everyone paying attention knows that he had an Achilles problem earlier and has been getting that under control. Could probably race now, but why bother if he isn't yet at 100%. There is a World meet again next year and OG the year after. Since he isn't a Nike athlete being in Eugene (did that at World Junior in 2014) wasn't all that important for his brand.
I think that the 12.51 has proven he is a top level runner. What the future holds for him, who knows?
I did look it up. He ran 13:17 before his 21st birthday. He was 18 years and 1 month when he started college XC. If he were a year older coming out of high school like a lot of guys are, and if he had taken a red shirt year, that 13:17 would have been his freshman year. Of course that’s not the case, but we tend to pay too much attention to the class standing and not the actual age and “training age” of runners. That 13:17 was not really recognized for how good it was for his age and training g history. He then ran 13:09 before he turned 23. The next year was the pandemic year and he has no results outdoors. A full two years after the 13:09, he ran 12:51.
I did look it up. He ran 13:17 before his 21st birthday. He was 18 years and 1 month when he started college XC. If he were a year older coming out of high school like a lot of guys are, and if he had taken a red shirt year, that 13:17 would have been his freshman year. Of course that’s not the case, but we tend to pay too much attention to the class standing and not the actual age and “training age” of runners. That 13:17 was not really recognized for how good it was for his age and training g history. He then ran 13:09 before he turned 23. The next year was the pandemic year and he has no results outdoors. A full two years after the 13:09, he ran 12:51.
good point regarding an athlete's age rather than academic level--for instance Knight is 3 months younger than Morgan McDonald, who pulled a redshirt in Knight's final 2018 season, and subsequently won several titles when he was 23 in his final outdoor track season, whereas Knight was only 21 when he graduated in 2018; and as for King Ches it is a safe bet that he was a little older than that lol...
I sure hope that he gets healthy again since he is a hell of a talent!
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