Why is Hoare so inconsistent?

He had two bad races out of a dozen? I think I’d take that season. Yes one race really counted over the rest but it happens. Either way I feel thats pretty consistent. Besides Jakob any other miler you could think of more consistent this season?

Wightman

I think this just emphasizes the general point. Wightman has been consistent, but that has meant 1st and 3rd in his two DL races, 3rd in CWGs and 1st at World's (not counting his 800 races). It's not all that different to Hoare and Wightman lost to Hoare in both Oslo and Birmingham. We get too hung up comparing people against ridiculous generational talents like Jakob and, in another event, McGlaughlin, who win pretty much every race. It's rare for even the very top athletes to win all the time but the best will always be around the top spot. That includes Hoare and Wightman, not dominant but almost always contending. Look at someone like Cheptegei, arguably the best male distance runner on the track right now, but someone who doesn't always finish number 1. That's the normal run of things.

I think the larger concept at play is an interesting one - and is so common across pro sport. We see it all the time in sports like the NFL and NBA which is why it is so incredibly hard and uncommon for teams to repeat. It's not that the talent or ability isn't there - it's that psychologically there is a difference in desperation and persistence to focus and overcome adversity that exists when you haven't reached the mountaintop before vs when you have. And that's not saying that the athletes don't care or aren't trying because they are, I really believe it's just a subconscious thing that you have to be on a Jordan/Bryant/Brady etc level to overcome. And individual sport is even harder because there is any collective support or extrinsic leadership to help/drive/force you to overcome it. Hey I actually give Hoare a ton of credit for even going for it - he could have just openly packed up after Comm Games and said "let's just come back next year and leave this year on the highest point of my career so far" - but he didn't.

Someone else mentioned this but I hardly see Oli as inconsistent - if Jakob is your yardstick that's a pretty tough one to hold everyone in comparison to.

You should've watched the race. Ingebritsen did his thing where was slow off the line. Hoare tucked in right behind the rabbit, led for maybe 50m after the rabbit stepped off before Ingebritsen came around then Hoare tucked in behind him. Perfect, really, until the wheels came off.

Totally agree and he is definitely a generational talent - mentally even more than physically (like almost all the truly dominant athletes across all sports are).

Every runner in the 1500 Lausanne field has had to overcome one thing or another at some point in the season. I think we can cut Hoare some slack if he wasn't has sharp as you'd like the other day...just this year alone he's logged more airline miles than many people do in a lifetime...since January he's gone from the US > Europe > Austrailia > US > Europe > US > Europe > US > Europe > US (MIchigan > Colorado) > Europe...that's 10 cross continental flights so far this year, with the 11th, returning to the US, immenent. Contrast that to the best 1500 meter runner in the world, Jakob, whose travel this year looks like this: Europe > US > Europe > US > Europe ...that's 4 cross continental flights. Again, everyone has had to overcome one thing another this season and logging montrous ariline miles happens to be be one of Hoare's challenges this year.

Just look back a year ago, no one could have predicted the great season he had, even Georgie too. They both raced a BUNCH and were pretty consistent until the very end. Oliver going beyond with a Gold at Commonwealth and Georgie just decent results in a "harder to medal" 5000.

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I’m not referring to winning every race. I was specifically highlighting the wild fluctuations as of recent- ie not making the final in Eugene, winning Commies, then bombing out in Lausanne. It sounds like injury was the culprit.

Abel Kipsang was more consistent this year.

even by looking at the times of in his WA profil.

His problem is with the aerobic.

You're right. There is nothing worse than an inconsistent Hoare.

Think about it like this. He was pissed how poorly world went so he had fire in him to run well at Commonwealths. He wins an incredible high. probably celebrates a bit, well once u r on that mountain it’s hard to stay there. Coupled with a long season, be paced it in wasn’t feeling it, he was close until

350 to go then just gave up it looked like. Let it go he will be back

Packed it in not paced it in. 😂

Well looks like everyone else not named Jakob Ingebrigtsen is very inconsistent that’s why Jakob is the best in the world no doubts.

99.9% of pro athletes would bite your hand off for the below season.

11 of his 14 races finished in the top 3.

This is his 2nd year as a Pro and already established himself amongst the worlds best.

World Semi Final was on him for no plan B. Surging too much and getting tense. Huge lesson in tough environment but he shown in a stacked Comms final that he can overcome it.

Lausanne was kind of expected. Huge emotional high after Comms, banged up a little but still went to Lausanne to see what he had. Prob not the best move to follow 1:51 800m but now he knows where he is at and has 13 days between then and Zurich to rest up, get a few workouts in.

I predict a solid 3:32/3 in Zurich and top 5. That would still be very good turn around given the context of current shape and would cap off great season.

6 Wins - Comms, Millrose, Comms Heats, World Heats, Aus Heats, Aus Final,
4 second places - Pre, Oslo, Sound, World Indoor Heats
1 Third - DL Birmingham
1 Fifth - World Indoor Final
1 10th -World Semi
1 12th - Lausanne

2 PB's
Mile - 3:47 (2nd), 1500m 3:30 (win).

Disagree on Beamish, I think he's running under his potential. He said himself he thought he should have been two places higher at CWGs. Someone of his talent should also have been able to hit the 1500 standard. He made it to all the championships available to him this year, but I don't think he would say he raced to his potential in any of them. Good thing for everyone is that there's another World's next year, a chance for redemption very quickly