chasing HS records red flag BAD coach

And Ryun went from 3:55 as a HSer to 3:51 as a college freshman. Webb ran an outstanding race at the NCAA XC championship the next Fall so there’s a story behind why he ran so poorly the next track season and it might have had nothing to with running so fast in HS.

Most runners are going to continue improving after HS due to physical maturation and don’t have to choose between being outstanding as a HS senior or as a college freshman.

Chasing high school records is pretty much it. Breaking them is another story. Nico set one. A total of 1. But he wasn't part of the 'historic' year (2021-22 school year) that has filled the Message Board. He wasn't a member of the greatest group of runners ever - the next 5 all-time greats after Alison Felix.

This year's grads and expected returners have chased but not broken the high school records many assumed they would. They did get an obscure indoor relay record, although when you look at the splits, it was unimpressive. I think spending your life to rewrite record books is a worthwhile cause, but Brosnan and Newbury Park have done no such thing.

Webb got hurt during the winter at UM and had to miss time. Tbh, the injury was the beginning of the end for Webb. He lost a lot of confidence.

Now I am curious. Do you think chasing Personal Records is immature? What about school records? Club records? American Records? World Records?

Yeah, someone should tell Jakob and Faith it is immature for them to be chasing WRs.

They’re not lemons, they’re purebred stallions with monster (or at least highly developed for their age) engines

Yes we should make sure kids run SLOWER!! FASTER = BAD!

Alan

Regarding Jakob - go back and read the title. Children chasing NATIONAL high school records is a negative for their LONG TERM ATHLTE DEVELOPMENT

Yeah if I could have broken a national record in HS I definitely wouldn’t have gone for it. Instead I would have…

wait, what are they supposed to do instead?

breaking records is not = CHASING records

derrrrrrrrrrrr

I get what you are saying, you just aren't saying it right. We don't have the luxury of knowing what their long term development is. We will see how this thread ages in a couple of years. But pushing kids to completely max them out and ruin their future at the expense of going after a record is wrong. But the thing is, we don't know if they have done that until 3 or so years from now. I personally don't know what their training is so hard to know from that either.

Weird way of wording that. Thought that was gonna end with a different word. Phew

Is Howie saying breaking them is good while chasing them is not? To be perfectly frank, they have chased a lot more than broken. I just looked at T&FN and there are 2 records involving anyone who has ever been to NP. One was not from this last year. During the past year, I can't even remember how much hype various record attempts got. One of them succeeded - indoor 4X1 Mile. No leg was close to 4 flat. That's it: the only record broken during the school year that redefined the sport.