Second of all, the US has a terrible citizenship process. Ed C. went to HS, college, and has worked here for a combined total of 15 years, still can’t run for this country.
I think the real problem is that US pro clubs foster foreign talent after College. OAC is 50% foreign athletes. NAZ is picking up several B Kenyans
All of this development money is going to support foreign athletes. Meanwhile US athletes have very little. Then we wonder why we are not medaling.
Do you think pro clubs have foreign athletes because they are foreign? They have them because they are the best that they can get. Pro clubs taking second tier athletes just because they are US citizens would not lead to more US medalists
I think the real problem is that US pro clubs foster foreign talent after College. OAC is 50% foreign athletes. NAZ is picking up several B Kenyans
All of this development money is going to support foreign athletes. Meanwhile US athletes have very little. Then we wonder why we are not medaling.
That's like saying the NBA and NHL should not sign foreign players who play for their national teams in the Olympics. Do you think players like Giannis and Embiid should not get large contracts so that money can go to Americans?
The clubs and teams are private entities and they want to get the best return on their investment as possible.
this might actually be the dumbest post I have ever seen.
U.S colleges have ZERO connection to to the US on a government level. They are privately run businesses.
Their goal is to make money, they don't care who it comes from.
On top of that, being an international student isn't gonna get you U.S Citizenship....
What in the world are you talking about? The only "colleges" that are private, for profit are schools like the University of Phoenix.
Almost all colleges in the US are public, and subsidized by public funds (state universities) or private/nonprofit (Harvard, Stanford, Notre Dame, etc.).
Horrible take. Most aren't even citizens and would prefer to represent their home country anyway. Just because they spend 3-5 years here doesn't mean they have to rep the US
Then they shouldn't be attending U.S. colleges and universities. It's the same principle as not wanting people to attend prestigious universities and then going back and reaping all the benefits for their home country rather than the country that endowed them with said benefits.
That's a ridiculous principle which is diametrically opposed to the actual operating principles of the universities. State funded schools benefit the state through favorable admission standards and much lower tuitions for state residents. Outside of that, in both the athletics department and in the general student body, it benefits the school to build a wide recruitment network to bring in the most talented students and athletes as possible. Successful foreign students and athletes who return home after graduating can improve the school's brand, reputation, and promote partnership opportunities with a wider network of other academic institutions or companies.
Serving as a development program for US National Teams, in T&F or any other sport, is nowhere in the mission statement of any college or university. Nor should it be.
this might actually be the dumbest post I have ever seen.
U.S colleges have ZERO connection to to the US on a government level. They are privately run businesses.
Their goal is to make money, they don't care who it comes from.
On top of that, being an international student isn't gonna get you U.S Citizenship....
Um most US colleges are not privately run businesses with the main goal of turning a profit. Dumbest post?
Of the 3,982 institutions listed by NCES, there were 1,625 public four-year and two-year colleges; 1,660 private nonprofit four-year and two-year schools; and 697 for-profit schools in fall 2019. The data divides the institutions into subcategories such as four-year colleges and universities and two-year schools, often known as community colleges.
Speaking of scholarships, how does this work with foreign athletes? We know men's track has a very small scholarship allotment to begin with, so that most athletes are on partial or zero scholarship. Since foreign tuition is much higher, does this affect the numbers? Not saying there's anything wrong with a Spanish 800 guy or a Latvian thrower competing in NCAA, just curious how it works and how athletic departments can afford to bring them over in a money-losing sport.
I love it. You are bound to your principles of openness and wanting to attract the best in the world, not entirely unselfishly, so what is happening is inevitable, not problematic.
By “you” above, I mean we, but I just can’t care about patriotism.
Ato Boldon did not come to the US as a foreign collegian. He spent time at Jamaica HS in Queens NY and then moved to southern Cal and finished HS there. His heart has always been with Trinidad so he chose his native country.
this might actually be the dumbest post I have ever seen.
U.S colleges have ZERO connection to to the US on a government level. They are privately run businesses.
Their goal is to make money, they don't care who it comes from.
On top of that, being an international student isn't gonna get you U.S Citizenship....
What in the world are you talking about? The only "colleges" that are private, for profit are schools like the University of Phoenix.
Almost all colleges in the US are public, and subsidized by public funds (state universities) or private/nonprofit (Harvard, Stanford, Notre Dame, etc.).
It doesn’t compute like that. Take the National Science Foundation or the DoD or NIH, agencies that fund much of scientific research. They do have restrictions on who can apply for funding. It’s almost never citizenship (except narrow programs of national security interest) but they do require applicants of most of their funding to be “US-based” , which just means affiliated with a U.S. university. Private or public university status is irrelevant.
Immigrants pay taxes and get to enjoy almost all public benefits except voting. How does it make sense to tax people working in America for American companies or organizations but not give them the same freedoms and benefits as citizens? Voting or anything related to national security is the only justifiable exception.
Then they shouldn't be attending U.S. colleges and universities. It's the same principle as not wanting people to attend prestigious universities and then going back and reaping all the benefits for their home country rather than the country that endowed them with said benefits.
It's so nice you take a break from the stake red hat racism and sexism with some gold old ignorant American xenophobia and missplaced exceptionalism
I personally like it lol. Also being a citizen isn't easy! And letsrun loves to hate on chelimo lol.
For real. Edward Cheserek was extremely vocal about wanting to represent the US and it took him nearly a decade to get citizenship. I'm not sure about the details, but I'd think this is a big reason why East African distance athletes join the Army as it seems their citizenship is essentially fast-tracked that way