Fisher: "It felt like a real sport"

Also, selfishly let's never have the 10,000 coincide with Pre. That should be a slam dunk to see America's best distance guys mix it up against the world in a loaded 5,000, 2 mile or 3,000 without tons of travel for our guys here. If you want to hold it earlier than the rest of the Champs, why not just have The Ten or some meet in March be the venue for it.

You watched the time trials and were entertained.

The Bowerman time trials were during Covid. The races this year (indoor 5k and outdoor 10k) were races with competition from other groups and for you to say these were time trials is a discredit to those athletes who raced. The talent that Bowerman athletes have separates them from others.

No gets on the circuit more because he doesn’t have to race at selection meets like the Americans and can adjust his racing schedule accordingly.

Fisher is just getting started, Mo has been doing this for a while.

Think before you spout.

Lars and High Hopes, you both must be Europeans. You seem to bash a lot. Ultimately, you are very bias.

I was there and it sounds loud because it was! I was at both sessions and the place was going nuts during the 10k (and all the other finals for that matter). I've been to tons of meets at Hayward Field and yesterday was the loudest (and most fun!) I've ever had there. Worlds has been fantastic!

I was there for the 10k and it was loud especially the last 6 or so laps. The US fans were chanting “USA!”. The fans were very into it. The people there were distance fans. It was by far the most exciting race with the loudest crowd support I have attended at the new Hayward and I have been to all the big meets. The last lap with Grant in the mix / the crowd screaming / on their feet was unreal!

Your surname must be Holmes. I am not bashing at all? Grant Fisher is the 4th best 10.000 runner in the world. I want the 4th best (along with the 3rd, 2nd and 1st) in the DL circuit, because that is more entertaining than time trials. And because I think that is what Fisher needs to take the step up to the podium in the future. You need to practice how to race the best. Fisher will never get that practice in time trials.

Kind of proving my point. I watched that race too.

When your comparison is a record attempt home country race by the most popular runner in the most popular event…

The 10k doesn’t get that kind of noise very often

You don't get it. I want Fisher to get on the circuit because I think he can mix it with the best - I want to see him race. If you're genuinely satisfied to see a world class talent race against lights on a high school track then you're lost. Sport is about competition. Fisher is so much better than his domestic peers that he needs to travel to race. If Joe Klecker is getting 4th in a DL, then Fisher can reasonably compete for victories. His peak will last maybe 5 years, he should take advantage of that because who knows what can cut it short. Athletes are retired a long time. Anyway, I hope he races some DLs after World's

I think this will improve after this year. I do hope that we will see him at Pre and then 2-3 post-championships DL every year. Is that perfect? No, but USAs is going to get pretty darn good so it's basically 4-5 showdowns each year. Hopefully, World XC and World Indoors are in the mix some years as well.

They ran two good laps. That is it in a 25 lap race. They closed in 1:53., which is very good for a 10000m. But that 4:02 last 1600m was 64.5/63./60./53.4. Everyone was in it with a mile to go because they were going close to 28 minute pace (and the previous lap was a 67) and they had qualified under 27:30. I really wonder what would have happened had Grant Fisher started pushing at 1600 with the aim of closing under 4. Maybe the same thing, but he should have been capable, given how well he closed that 26:33 (in cooler weather) and the fact that they were on pace almost 90 seconds slower to 8400m.

No competing at USA is not the same at all. For Fisher this means just one guy that can compete with him, which is not the same at all as running in a 5-10 man field with equally strong or stronger runners.

Really all he had to do to medal was pop out on the backstretch during the 64.5 lap and run 63 for that lap (scooting to the front) where he would then be able to control the pace and sprint from the front of the pack instead of from 1-1.5 seconds back. He did not lose ground so quite possibly he could have won from the front.

Of course hindsight is 20/20 and he ran a hell of a race. Hopefully he studies Farah's tactics. Farah was unstoppable because he always took control with about 3-4 laps to go and then used his speed to keep people behind him. If you're leading on the last lap, you can keep everyone out near lane 2 and then they have to sprint about 0.5+ seconds faster than you in the last 200m to beat you.

Ditto, the place was rocking from the moment the athletes started warming up on the track. Pleased I did my bit, screaming my head off throughout the final three laps.

I'd disagree with Fisher, only in that it was BETTER than other sports events. Being there for the 10k was nuts: extended effervescence, like when a stadium goes nuts for a buzzer beater, but this is a build-up that crescendoed for several minutes.

The USA USA chants gave way to just screams of appreciation for the runners giving it all. I was directly in front of a Ugandan cheering section, seated next to a Kenyan section -- which made it even cooler to watch the emotion of the fans.

So cool. And I spoke with several folks from out of town/country that day who were having the time of their lives at the meet. I've seen the threads on here that bemoan empty seats and Eugene's quaintness -- but it's been pretty nice here on the ground. (Although I 100% agree that it was terrible idea to have NCAAs and USA NAtionals in eugene this year, too -- totally diluted the enthusiasm for those events...)

He doesn't believe he is good enough to compete for the win. Mo Farah always had that belief and put himself in position to win with a few laps to go. He just wasn't good enough to make his tactic work until 2011. Watch him do the same tactic in 2009 but get blown by. Fisher is probably as fast as Mo ever could have been over the distances but needs more change of speed. Yet, he had more in the tank at the end and didn't use the optimal tactics for his strengths, namely, the long drive from 1600. One lap of the race was at 5000m wr pace. One lap was at 800m pace. That's not going to maximize Fisher's strengths.

Racing more means more time away from the USADA bubble and also more IC testing. This approach to racing is part of their whole... uh... approach...I

Read my earlier post, you will understand the concept of timelines and unpredictable circumstance.

Fisher wants to race DL and will after WC.