17 year old Harvard commit just ran faster than Colin Sahlman

Very few pay full cost. If parents make less than 70k per year it is free. Probably many times more free kids than full paying kids.
What you pay is income based across the board, goes up in increments with each earning. bracket.

and yes, they seem to be going with more foreign recruits, beats coaching.

Harvard has always recruited well internationally. Especially UK and Europe. The 5th guy this year was German. Harvard could have a very good year if one of the freshman show up. Blanks and Acer are as good of a xc one two as any. Stanford NAU have more depth but those two are really good.

If you think recruiting to Harvard is difficult then you have no idea what you are talking about. Harvard received 61,000 applications in 2022. That's 61k people that would sell their soul to go to Harvard. For comparison, Princeton only received 35k applications.

The only way you have to pay full tuition is if your parents parents are millionaires.

The coaches get a certain number of recruiting slots where they can get students accepted with a 1200 SAT.

Sort of but misleading. My son and daughter were recruited by the Ivies but chose state schools due to cost. Both had 35 ACTs and were national merit scholars. My wife and I earn a combined $180k but saved way too much money during our 25 year marriage. We would have had to pay full price. Several of our childrens' friends attended Ivies at steep discounts even though their parents earn more than us but they drive new BMWs and take multiple vacations while we drive old cars and don't take vacations. The Ivies have a silly system in place that punishes people who take care of themselves and rewards those who spend, spend, spend.

It also depends on savings. And more pay full price than attend for free.

Lets be real because the majority of American Talent cant get into the institution. I had 3.9 GPA in High School and decent SAT's and Bowdoin College required an Academic Waiver to be accepted. I could not imagine the difficulty it is to get into a school like Harvard!

True but most want to. And most distance runners are smart. It isn't the standards that hold Harvard back. It is the cost. If Harvard was free for everyone who gets admitted, they would win XC nationals every year.

You can see for yourself. If your family income is $200,000 without a lot of other assets/savings, it's practically free for your kid at Harvard.

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And his progression is wonderful too. I raced him in xc and placed 2nd to him in our state meet, and then in indoor I actually beat him in the 3200 at the state meet (although he was tripling back from mile and 1000), but he totally exploded during outdoors running 1:51,3:39, and 14:08, a far cry from anything I could dream of doing.

…or 99.9999% of US HS runners ever.

List is short (Kessler, Webb, Ryun and Colin).

Also, Kessler, Webb and Ryun did not run 14:08 in HS.

Colin is almost one year older than Kovacs.

So maybe it’s 100%.

Practically Free? I typed in $200,000, and no other assets and it came back with $42,000 a year. Thats without a 401k, no investments, no home equity, nothin. Usually people who make $200k a year have some sort of retirement, but either way, $42,000 a year isn't cheap. Also, about 45-50% of Harvard students pay the full amount.

I entered my information. $74k is my contribution on lesd than $200k earnings. I realize that most people don't bother to save much but after 20 years of marriage at $200k, they should have well over $1m due to market appreciation.

Flatt is not as old as some high school Seniors.

I was less than 17-1/2 when I graduated.

As someone else said on the thread, he is not coming back next year.

He had an incredible improvement in the past year. I hope that he can continue to progress back home.

His ranking back in Hungary is:

4th at 1500m

1st at 5000m

Not much competition back home.

I remember watching that as it happened on the Milestat live feed. That was an awesome race and you had the right idea to press hard from the start and you got rewarded with an awesome time. Shockingly, Kovacs had the same problem in his outdoor championships after winning the 1600 and 800, as he lost the 3200 but the winning time was only in the 9:40s. I was actually curious as to why you didn't race outdoor states.

I don't think we've ever talked in person but I've seen you race a lot from afar. The most recent time you and Kovacs ran in the same race together, he won, you got 3rd, and I got 11th in that heat in that race. That should be enough to identify me - if you care enough haha

Maybe once upon a time. Pereira running 9:11 2-mile in high school (MileSplit) to 27:45 10k...7 sec faster per mile over thrice the distance sounds like development to me.

Is this true? All of the Harvard kids spent the gap year in Flagstaff together, I have to imagine they were getting coached by Gibby then?

wow....

…and 2nd in Hungary at 3000 steeple with his 8:52.2 (3rd US all time HS performance). Was that his first steeple ever?

So:

Luxembourg (pop 0.6 million) has a better 1500m HS runner than the US

Hungary (pop 9.7 million) has a better 3000m steeple HS runner than the US. Also Denmark and Spain.

Denmark (pop 5 million) has a better 5000m HS runner than the US