Cade Flatt Only Runs 5 miles a week???

you can say that again

My first serious coach in Australia had me training like this . Ran 2:04 and 4:10 for 800 and 1500 in my first season (was 21 and this was 1987) which I was very happy with at the time. However never got faster. because he didn't develop my training.

He didn't believe in any steady runs. It was all fast track work.

He will run 1 second faster than his current HS p.r in the 800m.

And in doing so, not win an NCAA or US championship.

what’s the argument of him over granville?

None of us knows what he runs for sure. However, you can fill out some high speed workouts that would potentially do the job for a 46.8 guy without exceeding 5 mpw. He says he jogs a 300m warmup that he does not count in the mileage. Here are five of the type of workouts that might do the trick for him, each of them about a mile: 10x150 (maybe 18-19s), walk recovery (1500m total); 8x200, walk or standing recovery-:26>:23 (1600m total); starts or flying 50s=1/2M; 10x8-10s steep hills.

Add to them a race day 800m+strides/lap cooldown (1600m), and a day off, and you're talking about a 5M week. Seems unbelievable but at least it is possible and you can see the high intensity and race specific stuff. Sometimes there would be other forms of 800m race simulators, such as 3x400m on less than 1 minute rest.

Are you are arguing that IF Flatt were the HS GOAT 800m runner (which he clearly is NOT) that would justify him in claiming “whatever he wants,” i.e. lying? If so that is quite the fanboy take, which is nonsense to the intelligent.

Nobody will care - or even remember - about him or his training log in 5 years. Unless he combines that raw athletic ability with the mental fortitude needed to be elite.

Basically this, nobody on letsrun knows how sprinters train though so that's why you're getting this backlash. Most 400m guys are doing 7 miles a week tops with weight lifting and like 20 minutes of drills. They're sitting on the track for up to 10-20 minutes between reps waiting for lactate to go down so they can put in 100% on the next rep.

Ashton Eaton pulled a 4:11 1500m on 400m sprint training while competing in 9 other events and being at least 20 pounds over race weight. Zion Williamson ran a sub 5 mile at 260 pounds just playing basketball and had the longest Time to Exhaustion at a lab that tested a bunch of other endurance athletes. Someone with a very high natural VO2max can get fast at 800m with 400m training.

Cade Flatt - son your egos writing checks your body can't cash lol

Yeah, not so sure about that high school GOAT comment

Dude was 17 when he did this and he’s run 1:44 low this year

At Cade Flatt’s age Mu had 2 Olympic gold medals and set the AR.

People have a bizarre obsession with high school potential rather than concrete actual achievement.

A lot of people are coaches. Scouting potential is one of our responsibilities.

Is the entire board coaches? Lol! For most on this board, it’s part of their pathologies. They love to pick a young runner, project all kinds of ridiculous expectations on them, only so they can call them a failure the moment they hit a rough patch or don’t live up to a ridiculous, externally imposed, hype. They hype up runners then hate those same runners for having hype. If someone is successful, then they have to find a way to prove they’re not one of the “sheeple” and manufacture ways to tear them down and call them annoying/over-hyped/on drugs/hope they lose/they make the sport boring by winning, etc. It’s part of the cycle here, fed by people’s insecurities, and it always ends in the once loved great hope runner getting bashed once they disappoint people which was always inevitable because in the end people here get way more kicks bashing people than appreciating good running.

Flatt discusses his training @3:58

and that's not the topic. 5 mpw is.