I think he will qualify for World's as the UK 800m is a little weak right now due to injuries.
However it is very difficult to predict his performance at the WCs given that he does not have a great deal of experience in senior champs. I've seen him dominate races but also be knocked about by competition with more experience.
I am quietly expecting Team GB double silver in the 800m in Eugene.
I have no idea if he's doping, and nobody on here does either. So let's discuss the performance not whether he's doping.
You can choose to do that. But in sport today you can also take the position that he probably is. At the least it means there is always a question hanging over great performances (as his was), and at his age, in particular. In this era, I take the achievements of prodigies with a grain of salt.
I think there is a higher probability that you are on drugs, Armstronglivs.
And you know he is "untarnished" by doping, like most other top athletes, who are also "clean" as a whistle?
Sorry, but what's the purpose of Armstronglivs on this board? To s*** on every good performance? This kid runs the kind of race we've been asking to see all season and just like clockwork he pops up to ruin the moment. What a sad, dour, creature you are and I hope you can disencumber yourself from your lonely, friendless life to be able to be happy for others and learn to celebrate instead of sowing doubt.
Top World U20 vs. their all-time pr: 1. Nijel Amos 1:41.73 PR London 2012 (1:41.89 2019) 2. Mo Aman 1:42.37 PR 2013 (1:42.53 2012) 3. Tim Kitum 1:42.53 London 2012 (1:43.65 2013) 4. Abubaker Kaki 1:42.69 2008 (1:42.23 2010) 5. Abraham Kipchirchir Rotich 1:43.13 Monaco 2012 (1:43.15 2012) 6. Leonard Kirwa Kosencha 1:43.40 20 JUL 2012 (1:43.60 2012) 7. Donavan Brazier 1:43.55 2016/1:42.34 2019 8. Robert Biwott 1:43.56 08 JUL 2015 (1:44.69 2014) 9. Japheth Kimutai 1:43.64 13 AUG 1997 (1:42.69 1999 (he had a lot of fast times) 10. Jonah Birir 1:43.67 1990 (all-time track only has a 1:45 for him and missed this time) 11. Kipyegon Bett 1:43.76 03 SEP 2016 (1:44.04 2017, later doping)
Most of these guys never ran as fast again. It's almost as if they peaked as juniors--as if maybe they were older already at the time!
Another thing is that British athletes have the European Championships and the Commonwealth Games this summer, so him and his dad might prioritize one of them over Oregon.
Is that really a consideration? Weird if so.
Sadly, it is. I've seen this before with British athletes. Hodgkinson almost didn't run the Olympics last year and was going to run World Juniors instead. Coaches and UKA over-think it and act like sending an exceptional young athlete to some lesser championship, with less pressure, will be better for their development. Hopefully, Burgin will push to go to Eugene
And you know he is "untarnished" by doping, like most other top athletes, who are also "clean" as a whistle?
This is just boring. If you keep saying every good sportsperson is doping, eventually you'll be right, just like a stopped clock.
For me, I can only enjoy sport if I give everyone the benefit of the doubt: innocent until proven guilty. That's goes for athletes of any nationality or ethnicity. I don't see how you can get any pleasure from sport if you assume everyone is doping. You need a new hobby or interest if that's the case.
Another thing is that British athletes have the European Championships and the Commonwealth Games this summer, so him and his dad might prioritize one of them over Oregon.
Is that really a consideration? Weird if so.
Well obviously given the form he's shown, but I meant rather that perhaps the plan was to peak later in the season than others. Remember he'd only managed a handful of races in the last 3 years and is still only 20. Maybe that's why he missed Birmingham? Pretty sure him and his Dad would have settled for getting through a season and picking up championship experience and a medal at the Europeans. Obviously now it's clear he is a shoe in for the GB team and will be a major medal threat in Oregon.
And you know he is "untarnished" by doping, like most other top athletes, who are also "clean" as a whistle?
Sorry, but what's the purpose of Armstronglivs on this board? To s*** on every good performance? This kid runs the kind of race we've been asking to see all season and just like clockwork he pops up to ruin the moment. What a sad, dour, creature you are and I hope you can disencumber yourself from your lonely, friendless life to be able to be happy for others and learn to celebrate instead of sowing doubt.
I think a good rule for this forum would be for doping accusations to only be allowed in their own specific threads, not in threads that are celebrating a particular performance.
Sorry, but what's the purpose of Armstronglivs on this board? To s*** on every good performance? This kid runs the kind of race we've been asking to see all season and just like clockwork he pops up to ruin the moment. What a sad, dour, creature you are and I hope you can disencumber yourself from your lonely, friendless life to be able to be happy for others and learn to celebrate instead of sowing doubt.
I think a good rule for this forum would be for doping accusations to only be allowed in their own specific threads, not in threads that are celebrating a particular performance.
Well obviously given the form he's shown, but I meant rather that perhaps the plan was to peak later in the season than others. Remember he'd only managed a handful of races in the last 3 years and is still only 20. Maybe that's why he missed Birmingham? Pretty sure him and his Dad would have settled for getting through a season and picking up championship experience and a medal at the Europeans. Obviously now it's clear he is a shoe in for the GB team and will be a major medal threat in Oregon.
If an athlete prioritises Comm Games over Worlds it's because Comm Games give better exposure to the general public and is thus better for sponsors. It's essentially a financial decision. I know of quite a few elite swimmers from Commonwealth countries that are doing exactly that this year but normally Worlds and Comm Games don't happen in the same year.
That said I can't think of a single reason why someone would prioritise Euros over Worlds.
If an athlete prioritises Comm Games over Worlds it's because Comm Games give better exposure to the general public and is thus better for sponsors. It's essentially a financial decision. I know of quite a few elite swimmers from Commonwealth countries that are doing exactly that this year but normally Worlds and Comm Games don't happen in the same year.
That said I can't think of a single reason why someone would prioritise Euros over Worlds.
Especially as the Commonwealth's is in England this year. As much as the nature of it will confuse people from countries not involved, it's actually a pretty big deal here. It's like a mini-Olympics, and there will be sold out stadiums across just about all events.
If an athlete prioritises Comm Games over Worlds it's because Comm Games give better exposure to the general public and is thus better for sponsors. It's essentially a financial decision. I know of quite a few elite swimmers from Commonwealth countries that are doing exactly that this year but normally Worlds and Comm Games don't happen in the same year.
That said I can't think of a single reason why someone would prioritise Euros over Worlds.
Especially as the Commonwealth's is in England this year. As much as the nature of it will confuse people from countries not involved, it's actually a pretty big deal here. It's like a mini-Olympics, and there will be sold out stadiums across just about all events.
Let's face it, it's GB vs Kenya in the 800m this year, and probably for the next few years, so the Commonwealth Games is equal to the world championships in that event.
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