I think you’re food saying 4:17. But, who’s likely to care? Someone who ran 4:18:01 and is irritated you rounded down to 4:17 and their round-down only gets them to “4:18”? How petty is it, at that point.
Tbt, no one gives a crap except other running obsessives that probably already looked your time up on the internet anyways.
sttrunner20 wrote:
Technically it rounds to 4:18, but it's not quite 4:18, so thoughts?
I guess it comes down to if you ran a 3:59.99 mile. You'd probably still say you subbed 4. So maybe I just answered my own question.
You are a 4:17 miler. The time says 4:17 not 4:18. Why would you add time? It doesn't matter if it's close to 4:18, it's not 4:18.
If you ran 2:59:59.99 in a marathon and it was a legit time would you not call yourself a "sub-3 marathoner"?
If I ran a 4:17, I would tell people I ran a 4:17. Not sure why a thread got started about this.
I know someone who ran 4:00.1. What did he run?
Look at it this way:
One person runs 4:17.99.
Another runs 4:18.01.
It seems natural to say one ran 4:17 and the other ran 4:18, though only .02 separated them.
Then one person runs 4:17.49.
Another runs 4:17.51.
The person that thinks rounding is the way would say this is a situation where one ran 4:17 and the other ran 4:18, and they had the same .02 separation.
Would you read those results and agree with that, or say they both ran 4:17?
4:17.9 -> 4:17
4:01.9 -> 4:01
4:00.9 -> 4 flat
3:59.9 -> 3:59
It doesn't matter. I can't believe this is a conversation. To a non-runner it won't make a difference if you tell them :17 or :18. To someone who knows running? It doesn't make a difference. Should it make a difference? No.
it is time wrote:
You are a 4:17 miler. The time says 4:17 not 4:18. Why would you add time? It doesn't matter if it's close to 4:18, it's not 4:18.
If you ran 2:59:59.99 in a marathon and it was a legit time would you not call yourself a "sub-3 marathoner"?
I agree with your first paragraph. But road races are recorded to the second, and if the results are done correctly, anything beyond 0.00 (or 0.000 if the timing is capable of thousandths) is rounded up to the next full second. 2:59:59.99 would be recorded as 3:00:00. Even 2:59:59.01 would be recorded as 3:00:00, and the runner wouldn't know otherwise.
If you are 35 and your birthday is in two days do you say you are 35 or 36?
If I look at a clock it and says 3:57pm, I say it is 3:57pm. Doesn't matter if it is 3:57 and 59 seconds (59 seconds = .98 minutes) me and most of the rest of the non-military world are still saying it's 3:57pm.
Rupp is a 2:05 guy wrote:
What about the dweebs on this site that would always say ‘Rupp is a 2:05 guy if he ran such and such race.’
I think this is different. OP is asking if a 4:17-high is a 4:17 or 4:18 -- not if they really have 4:15 potential.
You can't claim a PB you don't have. That said, I think American marathoners leave time on the table because the American majors aren't fast/flat & don't always have good weather. I'm not saying Rupp is a 2:05 guy. He's never run it. But he ran 2:06-low in warm conditions. If he cycled Berlin/London every year during the last 5 years, he would have a faster PB. But he is a 2:06 guy & might always be. He also has a bronze medal & has beaten plenty of people with faster PBs at major championships.
If I were chatting with runners I would either say "just under 4:18" or I would use the precise time. If I were chatting with non-runners, I can't imagine the scenario in which race times would come up and have any meaning.
If you told someone you ran 4:17 and they looked you up in Tfrrs, they would acknowledge that you were telling the truth.
sttrunner20 wrote:
Technically it rounds to 4:18, but it's not quite 4:18, so thoughts?
I guess it comes down to if you ran a 3:59.99 mile. You'd probably still say you subbed 4. So maybe I just answered my own question.
4:17.98. If I ran 3:59.99 I would say 3:59.99.
With proper pacing and super shoes I would have run a four minute mile
1500 and up, only use seconds. 400 meters and down, use the decimals. At 800 meters it depends on the race: for a pr or big win, decimals are okay but not needed, for a regular 800 just use seconds.
the decimals don’t matter in a longer race because there are so many other factors that affect your time: wind, weather, tactical race, passed someone on the curve… those decimals are random and needless.
This is Letsrun. If there weren't cones or a rail, you didn't run a damn thing. You ran 0 kid.
I've been out of high school for 45 years. That would have probably worked it's way down to a general sub 4:15 by now. LOLOLOLOL
runn wrote:
I've been out of high school for 45 years. That would have probably worked it's way down to a general sub 4:15 by now. LOLOLOLOL
I have forgotten my high school 1600 PR. My 3200 was 10:18, anyone want to make up a 1600 for me?
I would say I ran a 4:17.98, being a runner and a numbers guy