Kobbs Hessler wrote:
She was 56 and he is 38. She thought he loved her. Lol. Was just using her to escape. That realization hits hard.
Lol indeed. So funny.
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You got downvotes but I was thinking the same thing.
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Was wondering how they could be sure she shot herself as opposed to being shot by him, but looks like a law enforcement officer saw her do it as they were taking him into custody. Sad indeed, but maybe she felt loved and happy the last days of her life even if it was all a mirage.
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kmaclam wrote:
Kobbs Hessler wrote:
She was 56 and he is 38. She thought he loved her. Lol. Was just using her to escape. That realization hits hard.
Lol indeed. So funny.
Talk about a bad week
gives up pension by commiting crime on last day of 20+ yr job
sells house for half value
chooses Evansville, ind for 2 week honeymoon
finds only self car wash in world w/1080p security cam
shoots self in head
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dumbassMF wrote:
crooked cops wrote:
Yes. If we get rid of all 36,000 NYC cops, who are all criminals and commit crimes every day, the crime rate will plummet. Eliminate 36,000 criminals - it is a no effort way to help clean up the city.
"Every cop is a criminal, and all the sinners saints", sounds like you have Sympathy for the Devil!
Did Mick know way back then that he was writing the Progressive Democrat platform?
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Sham Army wrote:
You got downvotes but I was thinking the same thing.
If you get no downvotes, you are not presenting the truth.
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TNrunnerTundra wrote:
Such a sad story but one that we have seen before. Looking at the woman I think that she just wanted someone to love her. She must not have ever had anyone show her any attention and the inmate was able to manipulate her. Its a reminder that everyone needs a community or some kind or a close relationship. She was a corrections officer for 17 years so I wonder if she had developed feelings for other inmates or if this guy was unique.
It's not sad. What the freaking hell is wrong with women that they fall in love with 'bad boys' so easily, to the extent that psychopathic serial killers locked up for life get dozens or hundreds of 'love letters' from women every day, and female prison guards are getting caught every day having sex with thuggish male inmates?
As a male, I can't avoid reading 20 times a day how disgusting I am for having a pee wee (unless I identified as a woman, in which case I would be a living saint). Yet it's women's sexuality that is depraved.
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I turn to the BBC and this - another 'tragic' case - is the headline :
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Mid life crisis wrote:
kmaclam wrote:
Lol indeed. So funny.
Talk about a bad week
gives up pension by commiting crime on last day of 20+ yr job
sells house for half value
chooses Evansville, ind for 2 week honeymoon
finds only self car wash in world w/1080p security cam
shoots self in head
Why the heck were they washing a stolen car in the first place? I guess if they got caught at least the car would look clean.
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how did she manage to shoot herself after being apprehended?
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Kobbs Hessler wrote:
She was 56 and he is 38. She thought he loved her. Lol. Was just using her to escape. That realization hits hard.
He is also 6’9”. Probably has an absolute hammer. How could she turn that down?
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sbeefyk2 wrote:
crooked cops wrote:
Every cop is a criminal. After we eliminate all cops, the crime rate will plummet.
The data disagrees with you. When police were told to back off, crime has spiked over 100% in those states.
There’s pretty simple theories that explain crime. People commit crimes when 3 conditions exist: 1) you are facing a hardship (typically financial, but it is not always a financial hardship), 2) you don’t expect to get caught or don’t expect a severe consequence, and 3) there is a rationalization for the crime. We can’t control point 1. People face hardships and that’s the way life is. We also cannot control point 3 because people can rationalize anything no matter how psychotic of a rationalization it is. We can however control 2. If the expectation of getting caught increases (more police, stricter laws, putting items behind plexiglass shelves, etc) then crime goes down because, even with condition 1 and 3, you don’t have 2.
It really is simple stuff. There’s millions of studies that ask criminals why they did their crime. It’s almost always the same thing. “Society has held me back so I deserve to rob and steal.” Or, “because I didn’t think I’d get caught.”
This is good post, but why in the world can't we control 1)? That's pretty much the whole point of social welfare--making sure that most/all people have a fair shot financially ("pursuit of happiness"). In fact, if the expanded child tax credit had stuck around, I predict that in 10-15 years we would be praising "innovative policing strategies" for the "sudden, unexpected" drop in crime. That really was the most effective U.S. policy in recent history, not that we care anymore...
But I think you're right overall. Interestingly, more severe punishments don't really help to deter crime, but I do think 2) plays into 3). It's far harder to rationalize something if you expect to get caught doing it.If we had a society where a) you're highly likely to get caught and punished (proportionally) if you commit a crime, and b) fewer people are financially desperate, we'd have much lower crime and feel much safer overall.
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Kobbs Hessler wrote:
She was 56 and he is 38. She thought he loved her. Lol. Was just using her to escape. That realization hits hard.
I have been following the story since the beginning, and I was 100% certain she'd end up dead, but I figured the convict would do it when he thought the time was right. The money would last twice as long and it's just harder for two people to move when one is 6'9 and the other is quite a bit shorter, older, and plumper. They stuck out like sore thumbs.
Also, why Indiana? I would have thought he'd make a run for the border, but I don't know to what end. It's not like a 6'9 white guy isn't going to stick out in Mexico.
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Woksters/liberals worship criminals, especially minority criminals and so they hate anyone who threatans their precious "victims".
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Strangely just hit me that both their names are White.
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randomist wrote:
Strangely just hit me that both their names are White.
I guess they didn't have any "white privilege".
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sbeefyk2 wrote:
crooked cops wrote:
Every cop is a criminal. After we eliminate all cops, the crime rate will plummet.
The data disagrees with you. When police were told to back off, crime has spiked over 100% in those states.
There’s pretty simple theories that explain crime. People commit crimes when 3 conditions exist: 1) you are facing a hardship (typically financial, but it is not always a financial hardship), 2) you don’t expect to get caught or don’t expect a severe consequence, and 3) there is a rationalization for the crime. We can’t control point 1. People face hardships and that’s the way life is. We also cannot control point 3 because people can rationalize anything no matter how psychotic of a rationalization it is. We can however control 2. If the expectation of getting caught increases (more police, stricter laws, putting items behind plexiglass shelves, etc) then crime goes down because, even with condition 1 and 3, you don’t have 2.
It really is simple stuff. There’s millions of studies that ask criminals why they did their crime. It’s almost always the same thing. “Society has held me back so I deserve to rob and steal.” Or, “because I didn’t think I’d get caught.”
You don't understand. After 36,000 criminals (cops) are eliminated from the population of NYC, the crime rate will go down. By a massive margin, most crimes are committed by cops.
Also, your point number 2 is accurate. Cops don't expect to get caught when they are committing their crimes, and if they do get caught know that they will very, very rarely be punished. The only punishment they face after they are caught is a paid suspension. In other words, a paid vacation.
Cops feel that they deserve to rob and steal because they have a little badge and their little play-army uniforms.
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crooked cops wrote:
sbeefyk2 wrote:
The data disagrees with you. When police were told to back off, crime has spiked over 100% in those states.
There’s pretty simple theories that explain crime. People commit crimes when 3 conditions exist: 1) you are facing a hardship (typically financial, but it is not always a financial hardship), 2) you don’t expect to get caught or don’t expect a severe consequence, and 3) there is a rationalization for the crime. We can’t control point 1. People face hardships and that’s the way life is. We also cannot control point 3 because people can rationalize anything no matter how psychotic of a rationalization it is. We can however control 2. If the expectation of getting caught increases (more police, stricter laws, putting items behind plexiglass shelves, etc) then crime goes down because, even with condition 1 and 3, you don’t have 2.
It really is simple stuff. There’s millions of studies that ask criminals why they did their crime. It’s almost always the same thing. “Society has held me back so I deserve to rob and steal.” Or, “because I didn’t think I’d get caught.”
You don't understand. After 36,000 criminals (cops) are eliminated from the population of NYC, the crime rate will go down. By a massive margin, most crimes are committed by cops.
Also, your point number 2 is accurate. Cops don't expect to get caught when they are committing their crimes, and if they do get caught know that they will very, very rarely be punished. The only punishment they face after they are caught is a paid suspension. In other words, a paid vacation.
Cops feel that they deserve to rob and steal because they have a little badge and their little play-army uniforms.
You are speaking gibberish....
How many times have you been arrested?
Are you currently in jail?
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thoughts and prayers wrote:
how did she manage to shoot herself after being apprehended?
where did the gun come from?She shot herself prior to being taken into custody. The guns they had prior to escaping. Vicky White had her service firearm with her. In addition, she also had a shotgun and an AR-15. There may have been more firearms.
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Oh Please wrote:
Kobbs Hessler wrote:
She was 56 and he is 38. She thought he loved her. Lol. Was just using her to escape. That realization hits hard.
I have been following the story since the beginning, and I was 100% certain she'd end up dead, but I figured the convict would do it when he thought the time was right. The money would last twice as long and it's just harder for two people to move when one is 6'9 and the other is quite a bit shorter, older, and plumper. They stuck out like sore thumbs.
Also, why Indiana? I would have thought he'd make a run for the border, but I don't know to what end. It's not like a 6'9 white guy isn't going to stick out in Mexico.
Mostly agree.
But I'm not so sure about the money lasting twice as long and it being harder for two people to move around.
Gas costs the same with two people vs one. Motel rooms cost the same. About the only difference is going to be in food costs - and 56 year old women don't eat a whole lot.
As far as it being harder for two people to move around, I think that just the opposite is true. For getting gas, walking into a motel lobby to get a room, walking into a grocery store for food . . . he could just hide in the truck or motel room and let her do all the person to person contact. It was the 6' 9" guy that would stick out like a sore thumb and he would have to do all those things if she was gone.
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