Is Centro showing up to the Pre Classic?

He’s still on the Nike payroll? Which club? Nothing with BTC and for months, he’s seemed to be doing his own thing or remaining quiet on social media. I’d say he’s done, and retirement is forth coming when he doesn’t make Worlds

I have to believe both Hocker and Teare are capable of sub 3:50. 3:50 during indoors off of supposedly no track work shows a lot of potential.

She's planning to run a workout during the women's 1500 on the little sliver of track just inside lane one, which technically doesn't count as competing.

I think they probably are too in a time trial scenario, but these competitive DL races seldom work out where everyone is able to run their fastest possible time, even given pacemakers.

1. Abel Kipsang 3:49.19
2. Jakob Ingebrigtsen 3:49.47
3. Timothy Cheruiyot 3:49.84
4. Oliver Hoare 3:50.50
5. Cooper Teare 3:50.57
6. Samuel Tefera 3:50.91
7. Cole Hocker 3:51.72
8. Jake Heyward 3:52.28
9. Stewart McSweyn 3:53.30
10. Filip Ingebrigtsen 3:54.22
11. Ignacio Fontes 3:54.79
12. Matt Centrowitz 3:55.31
13. Colin Sahlman 3:55.64
14. Vincent Keter 3:56.48
15. Clayton Murphy 3:58.07

They go through 809 in 1:55.x, a few meters adrift of Sowinski, and Cheruiyot walks them through the 3rd lap in 59. Hoare takes the lead at the bell. Teare is running a close 6th with 300 to go; Hocker is further back behind McSweyn and Heyward and he starts losing ground on the leaders as McSweyn drifts off the increasing pace. The places really shake out in the final 150, with Kipsang kicking best, Teare finishing well to beat Tefera and almost catch Hoare, and Hocker finishing strongly but being out of the real race by the time he finds top gear.

Centro fakes it pretty well for over 3 laps, but loses 3 seconds to Hocker and 5 seconds to Kipsang in the final 300m, and Sahlman nearly closes down on him in the homestretch.

I was being ironical, Jerry.

Jakob will win if he is fully recovered from Covid. His 3:30.60 indoor in February equals 3:47.45 in the mile.

I will question McSweyn who reportedly is coming back from both Covid and vaccine problems. The same goes for Filip.

And nobody knows if Tim is in shape following his heavy run in the Africa Champs 1500m trials recently.

Abel Kipsang’s altitude-converted 3:25.93 from last week equals 3:42.40 in the mile (no I don’t fully believe the conversion, just saying). But in any case this is not likely to be run as a perfect time trial for anyone.

I hedged my bet with McSweyn. 3:53 for 9th isn’t exactly a great result for him.

From what centro has always shown in the past regardless of his training situation or fitness level at the beginning of the season, he hasn’t(give or a take an 800 or two) completely laid an egg. He’ll be decent at worse(3:55-3:57). If he’s still under jerry, I expect that what happened was either some injuries from the hard training, or he decided to go low key off social(which is hard for centro to do but has done in the past). Either way jerry will have him ready for 3:50-5:53 if he’s lining up with a BTC singlet on.

You think too much.

Times are hard to predict, but in Doha we'll get a good sense of where Cheruiyot (got smoked in African Games trials, DNS'ed Kip Keino), McSweyn (long COVID) and Fontes (OK indoor season) are. It's lame to me that Josh Kerr isn't in this race unless he's staying in the UK after Birmingham.

I'd be very surprised if Centrowitz beats anyone besides Filip, Keter, Murphy and Sahlman and maybe Fontes/Heyward unless they bomb. 10th or so place and within a couple of seconds of Teare/Hocker/Hoare would be a positive result to me.

I could definitely see the race playing out like this, but I think Doha will be telling. If McSweyn is in shape, we might see 6-8 guys under 3:50 at Pre with a winning time of 3:46.

Let's hope for it. Between the mile distance (more pacemaking required than the 1500) and windy Oregon conditions, Prefontaine often is won more like a 3:48-3:50 range than you'd think given the fields. Hoping for a real battle either way with a bunch of guys running well regardless of time.

3:48-3:50 is definitely more realistic, but it just takes one guy to keep it honest that 3rd lap. Most of the field was fried last year after Tokyo, but Ingebrigtsen and McSweyn still managed 3:47 and 3:48. With everyone fresh this time around there’s potential for something special, provided the right guys are fit. Here’s hoping Cheruiyot and McSweyn run well in Doha.

Fair points, though I remember it being less windy than usual? Yes, interested in Doha. Kipsang looks comfortable going with the pacemakers and pushing it hard from 500 out. So if Jakob/Tim/McSweyn take it to there, he won't be afraid to put himself out there. If the wind isn't bad and they avoid the 54/58-59 type pacing that always seems to happen, we could see the really fast race happen.