This will continue. They'll talk to more experts seeking more opinions until they find one who says that the AIU and CAS got it wrong. When they finally get John Smith, BSc from Greendale Community College to say that as a scientist Shelby is innocent, they will parade it as proof and "see, even scientists think it was rigged."
I for one wholeheartedly agree with Rojo here. His insider knowledge of the thoughts and feelings of USADA with respect to hypothetical situations that have never happened couldn't possibly be wrong here.
Make that two independent scientists; Runnersworld already found one back in September:
Dr. Philip Skiba is a director of sports medicine for Advocate Medical Group in Chicago and was a consultant on Nike’s original Breaking2 project in 2017. He read today’s report and said in a phone call with Runner’s World, “There’s an extraordinarily small chance, basically zero, that this a false positive.”
Yeah, it was a weird rant, and I don't understand his repeated insistence that USADA would have let Houlihan skate on this.
Let's be clear, Travis Tygart is not at all shy about intervening in discussions about high-profile doping bans, even (maybe especially) when it means criticising WADA/AIU. Tygart has been very vocal on the Shayna Jack case, arguing she should have been given a no-fault finding. Yet, Tygart hasn't said a single word about Houlihan's case (other than to say she wasn't allowed to compete at the trials). So here we have the head of USADA, not publicity-shy, who also believes some athletes may be ingesting PEDs inadvertently via food and supplements, and still, he hasn't raised a single concern about Houlihan's case or how it has been handled. Silence can speak volumes.
I wonder what RoJo hopes to achieve with this. One of the big criticisms of national anti-doping agencies is that there is the perception that they have double standards. Foreign athletes - guilty as charged. Home athletes - please give us an excuse. One of the reasons that the AIU was set up was to provide an external flying squad of testers that weren't linked to the athletes through nationality.
The each country polices itself status is one of the reasons that T&F is not popular with the public and the sponsors. Did the best athlete win or was it the best cheat? Sponsors will support big city marathons as there are lots of joggers and recreational runners there but show little interest in elite events. No spectators to advertise to, and what CEO wants a picture of him celebrating with a drug cheat coming back to haunt him?
If RoJo does get some "expert" to say that Shelby would have been let off the hook by the USADA then he will be just confirming that a double standard does exist. RoJo will have successfully shot T&F in the foot.
Of course this could lead to USADA taking a hard line with the next few positives to show they are not biased. In which case RoJo can write a future article, "Would X, Y and Z have been let off by USADA if I hadn't written that article in May 2022?"
The OP clearly didn't read the case or any of the articles analyzing the case. OP just skimmed it and took the points that added to his confirmation bias. Not sure why you have this strange hatred against Shelby and probably all women, but it needs to stop.
Doper gets caught. Doper is shocked she got caught when all the other rampant dopers, who were better at covering their tracks, didn't get caught. Doper claims they didn't cheat, when really they're just pissed off they got caught and all the other cheaters didn't.
I wonder what RoJo hopes to achieve with this. One of the big criticisms of national anti-doping agencies is that there is the perception that they have double standards. Foreign athletes - guilty as charged. Home athletes - please give us an excuse. One of the reasons that the AIU was set up was to provide an external flying squad of testers that weren't linked to the athletes through nationality.
The each country polices itself status is one of the reasons that T&F is not popular with the public and the sponsors. Did the best athlete win or was it the best cheat? Sponsors will support big city marathons as there are lots of joggers and recreational runners there but show little interest in elite events. No spectators to advertise to, and what CEO wants a picture of him celebrating with a drug cheat coming back to haunt him?
If RoJo does get some "expert" to say that Shelby would have been let off the hook by the USADA then he will be just confirming that a double standard does exist. RoJo will have successfully shot T&F in the foot.
Of course this could lead to USADA taking a hard line with the next few positives to show they are not biased. In which case RoJo can write a future article, "Would X, Y and Z have been let off by USADA if I hadn't written that article in May 2022?"
Good point. I think the AIU has been a great thing for the sport in taking away some of the paranoia about national federations covering their own tracks. There's definitely privacy rules against it, but for sanctioned athletes I wish there would be transparency over the athlete's ABP & more. Has Shelby been in the "Likely Doping" category before? Are there irregularities? How about missed tests over the years?
I think Shelby in defending herself should've tried to produce these sorts of things along with a full accounting of all her supplements and TUEs if she wanted to defend herself best to the public. I don't think the burrito story, and "trust us, Shelby would never dope" stuff from teammates, friends and coaches is as convincing as her test history and disclosure of what she does take.
Rojo, can you actually do a bit of work and interview the head of USADA? How about getting his take on Ross Tucker's analysis? I have not heard a word from USADA regarding this case.
This will continue. They'll talk to more experts seeking more opinions until they find one who says that the AIU and CAS got it wrong. When they finally get John Smith, BSc from Greendale Community College to say that as a scientist Shelby is innocent, they will parade it as proof and "see, even scientists think it was rigged."
*newsflash*!
They already have the experts they need, 3 of them in fact. The names of these highly esteemed and world renowned doping experts are (checks notes): "Twoggle", "moultonk", and "rekrunner".
If I had the time, I'd go back through the LR archives to help prove this point. But here's why I think rojo and the other LR members are still not letting this go:
-They were vehemently anti NOP and anti Salazar. Their suspicions were correct but I think it also stemmed from a lack of access to Rupp and the other NOP members. There was a mutual dislike between LetsRun and NOP
-As an extension of that, LR took a stance against Sifan Hassan and wanted dearly for Shelby to beat her at the 2020 Olympics
-It's been said before, but if LR takes any kind of stance against Shelby/BTC/Jerry, they will lose access to Grant Fisher, Elise Granny, Shalene, Jager, and the rest of the BTC roster and loyalists.
WHEN Shelby's last appeal is thrown out, they will turn against the Swiss Tribunal. Just watch.
-It's been said before, but if LR takes any kind of stance against Shelby/BTC/Jerry, they will lose access to Grant Fisher, Elise Granny, Shalene, Jager, and the rest of the BTC roster and loyalists.
Yes. This also explains all the deletions at the beginning of the Tucker/Shelburrito thread, and often when Jager's Likely Doping status gets mentioned. On the other hand, mentioning Rupp's Likely Doping status is always appreciated.
If I had the time, I'd go back through the LR archives to help prove this point. But here's why I think rojo and the other LR members are still not letting this go:
-They were vehemently anti NOP and anti Salazar. Their suspicions were correct but I think it also stemmed from a lack of access to Rupp and the other NOP members. There was a mutual dislike between LetsRun and NOP
-As an extension of that, LR took a stance against Sifan Hassan and wanted dearly for Shelby to beat her at the 2020 Olympics
-It's been said before, but if LR takes any kind of stance against Shelby/BTC/Jerry, they will lose access to Grant Fisher, Elise Granny, Shalene, Jager, and the rest of the BTC roster and loyalists.
WHEN Shelby's last appeal is thrown out, they will turn against the Swiss Tribunal. Just watch.
I think rojo is just mad because there has never been a doping positive from a NOP athlete, while there is one with BTC. rojo and wejo have said they believe BTC is squeaky clean many times over the years.
If I had the time, I'd go back through the LR archives to help prove this point. But here's why I think rojo and the other LR members are still not letting this go:
-They were vehemently anti NOP and anti Salazar. Their suspicions were correct but I think it also stemmed from a lack of access to Rupp and the other NOP members. There was a mutual dislike between LetsRun and NOP
-As an extension of that, LR took a stance against Sifan Hassan and wanted dearly for Shelby to beat her at the 2020 Olympics
-It's been said before, but if LR takes any kind of stance against Shelby/BTC/Jerry, they will lose access to Grant Fisher, Elise Granny, Shalene, Jager, and the rest of the BTC roster and loyalists.
WHEN Shelby's last appeal is thrown out, they will turn against the Swiss Tribunal. Just watch.
The LRC suspicions were not correct . No NOP athlete was sanctioned . the biased the brojos had against NOP turned personal over the years .
If I had the time, I'd go back through the LR archives to help prove this point. But here's why I think rojo and the other LR members are still not letting this go:
-They were vehemently anti NOP and anti Salazar. Their suspicions were correct but I think it also stemmed from a lack of access to Rupp and the other NOP members. There was a mutual dislike between LetsRun and NOP
-As an extension of that, LR took a stance against Sifan Hassan and wanted dearly for Shelby to beat her at the 2020 Olympics
-It's been said before, but if LR takes any kind of stance against Shelby/BTC/Jerry, they will lose access to Grant Fisher, Elise Granny, Shalene, Jager, and the rest of the BTC roster and loyalists.
WHEN Shelby's last appeal is thrown out, they will turn against the Swiss Tribunal. Just watch.
I think rojo is just mad because there has never been a doping positive from a NOP athlete, while there is one with BTC. rojo and wejo have said they believe BTC is squeaky clean many times over the years.
It’s really sad that the Brojos support a convicted doper simply because doing otherwise would hurt their fragile little egos