will never see a game. remember he really messed up both knees before turning to full time track. Will get a career ending injury before ever getting in a game
He’ll make more in one season of NFL than a career on the track.
I don't think so.
He will not be highly paid this year if he makes the NFL I would think.
And he is risking injury and throwing away his career
The dude has torn two ACLs and STILL wants to go back to football. At the most basic level, it’s clear he enjoys football more than track.
He’s also being mentioned all over football and track twitter/message boards. Excellent PR move. If he ends up running the US trials/world champs while being an Phi Eagle, the broadcast will mention him nonstop.
Track sprinters who were not great receivers in college do not become great receivers in N.F.L. Most of the names mentioned on this thread regarding former college sprinters is not really impressive when one thinks about it. Most of the big name sprinters were not as good as one believed they would be entering N.F.L. Receiver in Am. football is a position of many skills. The ability to sprint fast in a 100m dash is the least important skill needed to be a good receiver. I took Advanced Physical Conditioning as a summer school course. Several of the university's D-1 receivers took same course with me. How fast a sprinter one was had little relationship to playing time.
That simply isn't true at all, you have any idea how many NFL WR ran track?
Hall of Famers
Bob Hayes, Cliff Branch, James Lofton, Randy Moss,
Ever heard of....Mel Gray, Isacc Curtis, JD Hill, Elbert "Golden Wheels" Dubenion, Tyreek Hill, Robert Woods, Wesley Walker, Earl McCullouch, Phil Epps, Mark Duper as starters?
will never see a game. remember he really messed up both knees before turning to full time track. Will get a career ending injury before ever getting in a game
* Bob Hayes made the HoF, but he was not as good as one would have thought in N.F.L. His N.F.L. career was no where near his T&F career.
* See Willie Gault's unimpressive N.F.L. career.
* See Renaldo N.'s unimpressive N.F.L. career.
* See Johnny "Lam" Jone's unimpressive N.F.L. career.
Randy Moss was not a college sprinter. The correlation of 100m sprinting speed to skill as a receiver is not a strong correlation. I stated sprinting speed is the least important skill for a receiver. You did not prove me wrong. List 1/2 a dozen to a dozen characteristics needed to be an outstanding receiver. If you place sprinting speed in the top three, you are not being honest.
First off Moss won his conference 60 and 200m, so...wrong.
Hayes scored 71 TD's, 4 time pro bowlr, an All Pro, had over 7000 yards, a 20,0 average which is great.
Cliff Branch was an NCAA 100 record holder he was All Pro three times, had over 8000 yards and scored 67 TDs.
Bone up on who Mel Gray and Isacc Curtis were, you mention Johnny Jones well how about Wesley Walker while Jones was there. Familiar with J.D.Hill, how about Mark Duper.
You cannot play pro football WR without speed, this is simply common sense. Those with great speed you can use differently.
You want those safeties out of the box you do that by having a speedster that takes two to deal with that speed, yep....a safety, which helps your running game.
The NFL has never had to contend with a top level track athlete in their prime. He's going to make them look silly. Can't wait to see him hurdling over tacklers on MNF!
The NFL has never had to contend with a top level track athlete in their prime. He's going to make them look silly. Can't wait to see him hurdling over tacklers on MNF!
Hayes was 23 years old had yet to reach his prime.
Allen has good speed but there have been a lot who were faster.
Tim Dwight played for the Falcons and returned a kickoff for a TD in the Super Bowl.
With the NFL so pass oriented with their offensive schemes Allen could easily fit in. I could see him be a slot receiver like Julian Edelman or Wes Welker.
The NFL has never had to contend with a top level track athlete in their prime. He's going to make them look silly. Can't wait to see him hurdling over tacklers on MNF!
With the rules that protect the receivers especially on pass interference calls I think he'll be a productive player.
will never see a game. remember he really messed up both knees before turning to full time track. Will get a career ending injury before ever getting in a game
I kind of agree with this. He's susceptible to ACL injuries and will get a big surprise when he gets creamed by a 6'4, 240lbs linebacker. I get it, though. Just like us runners keep coming back after injuries.
will never see a game. remember he really messed up both knees before turning to full time track. Will get a career ending injury before ever getting in a game
I kind of agree with this. He's susceptible to ACL injuries and will get a big surprise when he gets creamed by a 6'4, 240lbs linebacker. I get it, though. Just like us runners keep coming back after injuries.
Haha...if any team has a linebacker trying to cover a wide receiver they suck.
I kind of agree with this. He's susceptible to ACL injuries and will get a big surprise when he gets creamed by a 6'4, 240lbs linebacker. I get it, though. Just like us runners keep coming back after injuries.
Haha...if any team has a linebacker trying to cover a wide receiver they suck.
Yes, if Allen goes down the middle. Or, a backup linebacker covering punts on special teams.
Allen was at Oregon on a football scholarship and ran track on the side.
He was a top 15 us high school wide receiver.
He was a starter at wr for Oregon, prior to injury.
He caught 50 passes for 1000 yards and 8 touchdowns at Oregon.
As long as he stays healthy, he will make the team.
Allen was huge as a high school trackster in Arizona, it was not...ran track on the side.
Athletic achievement: Allen won the 110-meter hurdles with a time of 13.58 seconds and the 300-meter hurdles in 36.94 at the Division I state meet, leading the Broncos to second place as a team. Also the Athlete of the Year as named by The Arizona Republic and East Valley Tribune, he captured second place in both the 100-meter dash (10.49) and 200 (20.75). Allen’s state-record 110 hurdles time of 13.52 seconds and state-record 300 hurdles time of 36.39 at the Arcadia Invitational, as well as his 200 time at the state meet, all ranked as the nation’s No. 4 performance among prep competitors in 2012 at the time of his selection.
What I meant was he didn't cost coach Johnson a track scholarship at Oregon, and he only ran track at Oregon with permission of football coach.
At Oregon his priority was football, not track. (obviously, he was pretty good at track, lol)
This is not a fast track guy giving football a try, it's a proven football talent returning to football. He understands a playbook, he can run routes, he can catch etc.
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