In 1966–56 years ago—Andrew Jackson and Boys High of NYC raced to a dead heat 7:35.6 for the full 2MR, equal to 7:33 for 4 x 8. And the shoes and track of that era were underwhelming to say the least. Their natl record stood for 36 years, when the 7:33 was broken by .1 second, 7:32.9.
If they end up going for the DMR as some other poster mentioned, will we see a different lineup than the other records?
I can’t imagine that the young twins can run a very fast 400, probably around 52. There’s gotta be a 400m runner on NP that can run faster, or maybe even a speedy 800m guy.
That’s gotta be awkward for the coach tho, to leave one of them out.
A. Sahlman could split 47-48.
Why not put together a B team of Doshi (4:19), Lefall (22.9 200m), Olsen (1:54), Appleford (4:11). They’d run close to 10:00.
So many speculate on what they should do. Time and time again they prove to make the right decisions and race just enough
Going to be tough but doable for them assuming it’s the Sahlman and Young bros running. We know Colin and Aaron are sub 1:50 half milers and I imagine Lex can hit 1:50 given he’s on the cusp of breaking 4. Leo is the wildcard but I’d be shocked if he couldn’t break 1:54 in a relay split. 7:28 is an outstanding record but as someone said previously, the toughest to break at this point
If they end up going for the DMR as some other poster mentioned, will we see a different lineup than the other records?
I can’t imagine that the young twins can run a very fast 400, probably around 52. There’s gotta be a 400m runner on NP that can run faster, or maybe even a speedy 800m guy.
That’s gotta be awkward for the coach tho, to leave one of them out.
A. Sahlman could split 47-48.
Why not put together a B team of Doshi (4:19), Lefall (22.9 200m), Olsen (1:54), Appleford (4:11). They’d run close to 10:00.
They should get the record, but there isn't as much margin for error as people think. Fast 800s are difficult to run without competition. It is not just about having someone to push you, but unless you run 800s regularly you don't have a sense of pace for the race.
Morris Hills was a strong program in those days. I followed them closely because one of the posters on Dyestat NJ was associated with the program at the time and was Jeremy Zagorski's private coach back in the day.
Competition helps a lot and don't think they'll have any. Albemarle from Penn is not the record anymore, but when Long Beach Poly set the record the 2nd place team also broke the previous record. Similar with the converted record from 1966 or whatever that stood for almost 40 years.
So Aaron runs FIVE SECONDS slower than his open PR? Yeahright.
Keep in mind that Mt SAC is right in their backyard, no hassles with travel, sleep etc..
Why not? Aaron ran hell of a lot slower than his mile PR during the 4xmile at Millrose. He was actually the slowest out of the four. I'm simply factoring that in.
So Aaron runs FIVE SECONDS slower than his open PR? Yeahright.
Keep in mind that Mt SAC is right in their backyard, no hassles with travel, sleep etc..
Why not? Aaron ran hell of a lot slower than his mile PR during the 4xmile at Millrose. He was actually the slowest out of the four. I'm simply factoring that in.
Remember, Athlete Special who has a slower PR than Aaron at 800m can close a workout in 1:55.
They'll be running alone after the first leg or two. Probably put the "slowest" first so they have someone to run with. I don't imagine we'll be seeing 1:48s out of the Sahlmans in a relay scenario where they will be running alone. Haven't seen 800m times for the twins, but given their mile times I'm guessing they would be in the 1:52 to 1:54 range (running alone). National record I believe is 7:33 (1:53 average per). Should be attainable, but not a given.
Colin led wire-to-wire in that 1:48 at MOC. No chance he runs 1:52+
Running relays tends to lead to slower times, naturally, but this is a unique situation because NP should lead wire-to-wire (or take the lead on the 2nd leg at the latest) and at most only have a couple lapped runners to go around for their final leg. So they can basically stay right on the rail the entire time. And they know a huge part of the running community will be watching remotely or at least interested in the results.
Sahlman brothers will likely combine for about 3:40 give or take a second. Youngs are the question mark since Lex has never (wtf?!) run an 800 and Leo has only run it twice during low-key league meets last season. Tougher to guess their times due to that, but I'd say they combine for something in the 3:42-3:46 range.
Based on that 10 minute analysis I'd say they end up in the 7:22-7:28 range.
Poly gonna look like absolute heroes if they keep the record.
Meant to include I think the best strategy, which I'm guessing most here will vehemently disagree with, would be to have Colin lead off. Taking the lead from the gun is safest bet. If they put their slowest guy first he could get lose time running wide in a bunch or following a kid trying to be a hero that goes out way too fast and makes one of the Youngs fade hard (would still prob be under 1:55 but that aint good enough) relatively speaking.
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