I've worn nothing but Brooks size 12 for many years, but recently got a pair of Vaporfly - my first super shoes ever. They fit me fine in a 12. I don't think I'd worn Nikes since high school 15 years ago. I thought they might be too narrow or something but they're great.
I thought the consensus around here that the af’s were inferior to the vf’s?
That is the consensus among everyone who knows anything about running. I guess the posters here drank the Nike koolaid or something. Pretty much everyone will tell you the AFs are marginally worse because you lose performance due to Nike wanting to hamfist the air zoom unit into all of their "supershoe" lineup for marketing reasons. The Maxflys are the only shoes in their lineup that dont have a better alternative without an airpod, but maybe thats just because Nike didnt bother making it.
I thought the consensus around here that the af’s were inferior to the vf’s?
That is the consensus among everyone who knows anything about running. I guess the posters here drank the Nike koolaid or something. Pretty much everyone will tell you the AFs are marginally worse because you lose performance due to Nike wanting to hamfist the air zoom unit into all of their "supershoe" lineup for marketing reasons. The Maxflys are the only shoes in their lineup that dont have a better alternative without an airpod, but maybe thats just because Nike didnt bother making it.
I've run marathons in both the VF and AF, and definitely prefer the AF for that distance. They just do a better job saving my legs. Sure, the airbag in the AF probably makes it a slower shoe in shorter races, but if it works well with your mechanics, having fresher legs in the last 10k of a marathon is worth WAY more than any marginal performance loss.
Go order them off nike. Try em out and return the one you don't like. They are very different shoes, see how you like em. I ended up keeping both (but that may not be possible if you're not yet a working adult). My general preferences used to be low, hard(er) shoes. Now, I get excited for these long tempo runs when I get to wear my alphas after a long hard day of work. For quicker, shorter stuff, say <=5k, I prefer the vaporflys.
Don’t do this. They shred the returned shoes, and that’s after all the unnecessary shipping. Go try them on somewhere maybe
Well thanks for all the reply's guys, it looks like it really comes down to personal preference. So i might order both of them and keep the ones i like the most. My final question is about size (i cant try them anywhere in my country) are both of the shoes true to the size or should i order one number bigger/smaller (if anyone can compare them to Zoom fly3 it would make my day).
Lab Rat thanks for the article, I will give it a read when i have a bit of free time.
I went up half a size from ZF 3 to VP fly.It was just to much of a struggle to slide my foot into the VF compared to the same size ZF 3
I thought the consensus around here that the af’s were inferior to the vf’s?
That is the consensus among everyone who knows anything about running. I guess the posters here drank the Nike koolaid or something. Pretty much everyone will tell you the AFs are marginally worse because you lose performance due to Nike wanting to hamfist the air zoom unit into all of their "supershoe" lineup for marketing reasons. The Maxflys are the only shoes in their lineup that dont have a better alternative without an airpod, but maybe thats just because Nike didnt bother making it.
The Superfly Elite may well be better, I haven't seen anything to suggest that they're slower. And knowing about running doesn't qualify you to make such statements about shoes and expect people to accept them as fact. Being an F1 fan doesn't automatically make you an engine expert.
you should probably try to get the opportunity to test both. they feel different, alphafly feels heavier. i tried to measure a difference for me on a treadmill with heartrate sensor, did get identical results. im also a 245ish runner, i prefer vf next%, they feel lighter for me. but i think really its something you should base on your gut feeling when testing. both are great shoes
Hi, I am looking to buy my first ever super shoes. I am choosing between Nike Alphafly and Vaporfly. My main races this season will be half and full marathon (goal time 2:45 if that matters).
So for those of you who have ran in both, which ones do you suggest and why.
Personal info: M24, 6'1'', 150 pounds, cadence at mp: 160
*have run
"Have ran" is never, ever correct if you're speaking English. I'm not sure why this is so hard for runners.
I thought the consensus around here that the af’s were inferior to the vf’s?
That is the consensus among everyone who knows anything about running. I guess the posters here drank the Nike koolaid or something. Pretty much everyone will tell you the AFs are marginally worse because you lose performance due to Nike wanting to hamfist the air zoom unit into all of their "supershoe" lineup for marketing reasons. The Maxflys are the only shoes in their lineup that dont have a better alternative without an airpod, but maybe thats just because Nike didnt bother making it.
WR holder in the marathon would like a word. As usual, horrible take from Oozma.
That is the consensus among everyone who knows anything about running. I guess the posters here drank the Nike koolaid or something. Pretty much everyone will tell you the AFs are marginally worse because you lose performance due to Nike wanting to hamfist the air zoom unit into all of their "supershoe" lineup for marketing reasons. The Maxflys are the only shoes in their lineup that dont have a better alternative without an airpod, but maybe thats just because Nike didnt bother making it.
WR holder in the marathon would like a word. As usual, horrible take from Oozma.
You see, Oozma has given himself an out by saying it's the consensus among "everyone who knows anything about running". If you disagree with him, then you know nothing about running. So the only people who know anything about running agree with him. It's a classic feedback loop set up by people who are unwilling to change their positions. It's called the "No true Scotsman" fallacy.
If you are unsure then go with the vaporfly because it is lighter, more stable and more predictable.
The alphafly is very different. It is a bit taller and a bit heavier but it is still fast. It is a lot bouncier especially on the forefoot on top of those airpods.
By the way, if you think the Alphafly is better than the Vaporfly you are a casual who doesnt know anything about running. Youre literally a flatearther. Everyone knows the Vaporflys are better.
That is the consensus among everyone who knows anything about running. I guess the posters here drank the Nike koolaid or something. Pretty much everyone will tell you the AFs are marginally worse because you lose performance due to Nike wanting to hamfist the air zoom unit into all of their "supershoe" lineup for marketing reasons. The Maxflys are the only shoes in their lineup that dont have a better alternative without an airpod, but maybe thats just because Nike didnt bother making it.
WR holder in the marathon would like a word. As usual, horrible take from Oozma.
Well thanks for all the reply's guys, it looks like it really comes down to personal preference. So i might order both of them and keep the ones i like the most. My final question is about size (i cant try them anywhere in my country) are both of the shoes true to the size or should i order one number bigger/smaller (if anyone can compare them to Zoom fly3 it would make my day).
Lab Rat thanks for the article, I will give it a read when i have a bit of free time.
They are true to size. So use your usual Nike running shoe size.
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