So if I added this up right between 7th grade and high school graduation Katelyn ran the mile distance 6 times in total. once in 7th grade, once in 9th grade, three times in 10th grade, and once in 11th. During the 2021 outdoor season alone Engelhardt ran the mile distance seven times, and may have run the distance over 15 times already. I mean, OK.
That'd kinda creepy that you know that. Get a life loser.
That's easy to look up online. Are you not capable of figuring out how to do that?
So if I added this up right between 7th grade and high school graduation Katelyn ran the mile distance 6 times in total. once in 7th grade, once in 9th grade, three times in 10th grade, and once in 11th. During the 2021 outdoor season alone Engelhardt ran the mile distance seven times, and may have run the distance over 15 times already. I mean, OK.
That'd kinda creepy that you know that. Get a life loser.
Tuohy raced as much as anyone in high school, with xc, indoor and outdoor; probably more than California kids without indoor. The only reason she doesn't have many 'mile' results is that for some bizarre reason, NY has the 1500 (and 3000) at high school meets, so her only chance to post mile (and 2 mile) results was at invitationals and nationals, and even some of those meets had the 1600m (or 3200).
Records are made to be broken, so let the kids have at it. Engelhardt has many years left and Frias is an old school xc throwback! 4:35 has to be a huge pr for her! June will be fun.
My point is I hope people know what they are doing because virtually every top distance runner coming out of high school the past few years has been injured and this seems like over racing for a short term goal.
Frias 10 second pr in this race, headed to Duke, has up til now been an xc/distance standout. Engelhardt, on the other hand, has been age group 4:40 miler for a while now.
Tuohy raced as much as anyone in high school, with xc, indoor and outdoor; probably more than California kids without indoor. The only reason she doesn't have many 'mile' results is that for some bizarre reason, NY has the 1500 (and 3000) at high school meets, so her only chance to post mile (and 2 mile) results was at invitationals and nationals, and even some of those meets had the 1600m (or 3200).
Records are made to be broken, so let the kids have at it. Engelhardt has many years left and Frias is an old school xc throwback! 4:35 has to be a huge pr for her! June will be fun.
Tuohy ran 4:33 in 90 degree weather where the second placer grace Connolly ran 4:49. Insane that she ran that fast so dominantly. Congrats to frias and engelhardt and agreed they could take a crack at the national record.
Got some serious Geordie Beamish vibes from that gap then kick finish
It was a very good finish by Frias. But Engelhardt got carried away and ran too fast the end of the 3rd lap and beginning of the 4th lap, while Frias ran that section of the race at a smarter pace. Engelhardt ran out of gas at the end.
It will be interesting to see a rematch of those two later this spring at some point. Engelhardt will probably run smarter and the race should be very close, maybe even resulting in breaking the state record again.
Obviously joking here, but clearly Tuohy's get out front strategy was wrong in that 4:33 race. She should have stayed in the pack behind Connelly, and then kicked in to win in 4:47. That time would have been more appropriate for the 90 degree temp, insured the highly desired negative split, saved her for college, and left her with a high school pr that would be easier to improve at a later date.
Obviously joking here, but clearly Tuohy's get out front strategy was wrong in that 4:33 race. She should have stayed in the pack behind Connelly, and then kicked in to win in 4:47. That time would have been more appropriate for the 90 degree temp, insured the highly desired negative split, saved her for college, and left her with a high school pr that would be easier to improve at a later date.
Katelyn Tuohy wasn't too far from a negative split with her 4:33.87 high school Mile record:
So if I added this up right between 7th grade and high school graduation Katelyn ran the mile distance 6 times in total. once in 7th grade, once in 9th grade, three times in 10th grade, and once in 11th. During the 2021 outdoor season alone Engelhardt ran the mile distance seven times, and may have run the distance over 15 times already. I mean, OK.
I think you need to be careful with counting the 1600s plus the miles as 3 of the 1600s from this year were en route to miles. And as pointed out with Tuohy you need to count 1500s, and also she ran at least 1 dmr leg per season. I find what Ellie Shea is doing a little more severe. Also, multiple pr or record breaking attempts might take their toll at some point.
Earlier in the week, the VENTURA frosh TRIPLED ( 8, 16, 32) in a dual meet - ony ran hard in the 800m 2:09.xx) but it still seems silly to have hade her do that much wokr/quasi-racing two days before a big meet last night...especially as she is just a frosh....
Dalia Frias is more impressive to me, though I might be slightly biased as I've known about her since she was a freshman. She had never competed in any sport prior to high school, her parents have no running background, and Dalia did not take running seriously until her course record at Woodbridge. She's a serious talent, hopefully she can remain healthy at Duke.
Earlier in the week, the VENTURA frosh TRIPLED ( 8, 16, 32) in a dual meet - ony ran hard in the 800m 2:09.xx) but it still seems silly to have hade her do that much wokr/quasi-racing two days before a big meet last night...especially as she is just a frosh....
She ran 3.5 miles in one day and that concerns you? Do you have any idea how many miles per day top girls usually run? 3.5 miles is nothing.
Dalia Frias is more impressive to me, though I might be slightly biased as I've known about her since she was a freshman. She had never competed in any sport prior to high school, her parents have no running background, and Dalia did not take running seriously until her course record at Woodbridge. She's a serious talent, hopefully she can remain healthy at Duke.
Your claim that Dalia didn't take running seriously until after her course record at Woodbridge is hard to believe. I was there. She smoked a very high quality national class field, including the spectacular Natalie Cook.
Dalia is either the most naturally talented runner in the history of the world, or she was training a lot harder than you realize.
