Podcast with Mary Cain: Who is the abusive agent she is citing?

Ok. That's good to know then.

Yeah, it was a choice that people questioned, but the level of anger and contempt that people have towards her now is ridiculous.

I’m a big Mary Cain fan, but in no way is she “transitioning” to the triathlon. She has simply stopped running competitively and is now participating in triathlons.

I can see her Zwift rides on Strava, and those aren’t the efforts of anyone who wants to become a pro triathlete. Every ride is below 100 watts, which even at her weight is soft pedaling. And she’s not doing any volume at all.

She’s unfortunately just in that awkward phase of an athlete’s career where they can’t admit it’s really over…

mary cain can't stop talking about the toxicity in the sport and her downfall that is cause by *others*, its been years, the sport of running has evolved and there are many pro runners and collegiate runners that are in a good healthy environment, there are good people, she was with other runners on that project and other runners was also coached by the same coach but only mary cain has never stopped talking about it

hundred percent, she regrets going pro, she regrets a certain decision, she regrets a certain time, regrets quite a lot of things because she has never stopped talking about it and taking shots at people, i don't blame her, it was really not her fault why she end up that way she end up w nike ... yet instead of moving on and not let it define her and her career, she always just goes back to it, she let it break her, she has never really made a come back ... and it seems like through the years, she hasnt really found something that makes her genuinely happy other than competitive running, through all the years, she has always talked about the toxicity, and bad people in the sport, she's jailed by it..

Hold on a minute. You are telling me that Mary Cain actually have a power meter on her bike. And her training logs show weak less than 100 watt rides. And neither her or her new Coach Paulo didn't realize or couldn't admit she quantitively sucks at bike riding compared to even any beginner cyclist after all this training since last year with Coach Paulo? Either Mary Cain or Coach Paulo or not forthcoming.

It has nothing to do with her running. It's about her saying that her former coach was great and she wanted to go back to him, but instead had a bad article written about him in the New York Time where she took no personal responsibility, and then sued him for millions of dollars because she decided to go pro too young and couldn't handle it and decided it was her coaches fault.

Yikes that podcast was hard to listen to. Twins separated at birth. One raised in California and one NT C.

Parents tried to take shortcuts and she paid the price. Stick

with the process.

When everyone around you is toxic, it’s you.

Key word = was

At this point, she is basically what other losers like to call themselves 'an influencer'. Maybe she can join Sha'Carri and Colin Kaepernick in their quest to regain relevance while refusing to accept the results of their actions.

at one point after watching her videos and interviews, i see a little egocentric-ness, dont have anything against her, just pure observation ...

In the world of MC, "abusive" is anyone that told her no, or disagreed with her.

Don't forget the triathlon was abusive too.

I fear what Mary Cain will do to Jon Green now that he had left her as coach of her running club.

The Mary Cain situation is pretty complex. Some of the things that happened to her are terrible and those responsible deserve punishment while others are her own doing.

I listened to the podcast and a lot of what she says rings true. There is way too much pressure in HS to do heavy miles. In HS you should keep yourself from burning out.

The whole influencer thing I agree with. Sponsors and agents have way too much influence over what these people post. Get a contract because you run fast, not because you have people reading your tweets and IG posts. Pro athletes, whether they are runners, football players, of F1 drivers should be paid for their performance on the field, not their social media reach.

She was treated badly by AlSal and I would call what he did abuse.

All that being said she decided to turn pro as an HS student and her parents, one of which is a doctor, seem to have not done a very good job either talking her out of it or preparing her.

Once she was at Nike and realized the disaster it was she needed to get out. At the very least she needed to confide in her parents and they needed to be the adults and get out. I may have missed it but did she ever talk about how much her parents knew and how hard they tried to come get her?

Atalanta is a terrible name for anything other than an Italian Soccer Team.

It seems like she is trying to "be the change she wants to see" with that team and I applaud her for it but until we see some actual results to prove the experiment works it is nothing but vaporware.

Bottom line is she was thrust into a bad situation, some of it her own or her family's doing and some of it Nike's, and she is doing what she feels is best to try and bring awareness to it. She is a little annoying and seems to not take ownership of her role in it but Nike and the whole AlSal situation was toxic and needed burned down.

This podcaster is really something.

I got through about 10 minutes of this podcast. Mary Cain comes across as a pretentious, spoiled snob and completely unlikable. Between her "only NY and CA matter" comment and her veiled shot at Natalie Cook and other high schoolers while patting herself on the back for being fast without super shoes and 20 mile weeks, no thanks - had to stop listening. I'm sorry Alberto, Nike, and her own parents put her in the situation they did but she needs to move on and quit placing the blame for anything that happens to her or related to her on literally everything and everyone else for the rest of her life.

Also Emma A. is the most annoying simp in the podcast space.

This awkward phase is now in its sixth year -- at a minimum.

There is always a weaning out process in an athletic life cycle . Early , it is people learning a lack of ability and they move on to other things . Next , as a Pro , you have to adapt and make decisions . Mary did not adapt to the Pro game . The same outcome could have happened if she went to BTC .