In Fresno and Bakersfield you are never more than 20 minutes from out in the sticks. Farms all over the place.
Mountains an hour away Iif that, the coast a couple hours away. The Mojave Desert not far away. We have it all right here.
I've been to: Reno, Chicago, Fargo, Minnesota, Buffalo, Toronto, Winslow, Sarasota, Wichita, Tulsa, Ottawa, Oklahoma, Tampa, Panama, Mattawa, La Paloma, Bangor, Baltimore, Salvador, Amarillo, Tocapillo, Baranquilla, and Perdilla, I'm a killer. I've been to: Boston, Charleston, Dayton, Louisiana, Washington, Houston, Kingston, Texarkana, Monterey, Faraday, Santa Fe, Tallapoosa, Glen Rock, Black Rock, Little Rock, Oskaloosa, Tennessee to Tennesse Chicopee, Spirit Lake, Grand Lake, Devils Lake, Crater Lake, for Pete's sake. I've been to: Louisville, Nashville, Knoxville, Ombabika, Schefferville, Jacksonville, Waterville, Costa Rica, Pittsfield, Springfield, Bakersfield, Shreveport, Hackensack, Cadillac, Fond du Lac, Davenport, Idaho, Jellico, Argentina, Diamantina, Pasadena, Catalina, see what I mean-a. I've been to: Pittsburgh, Parkersburg, Gravelbourg, Colorado, Ellensburg, Rexburg, Vicksburg, Eldorado, Larimore, Atmore, Haverstraw, Chatanika, Chaska, Nebraska, Alaska, Opelika, Baraboo, Waterloo, Kalamazoo, Kansas City, Sioux City, Cedar City, Dodge City, what a pity
I grew up in New England. It was great, I especially liked access to woods, swamps, ponds, lakes and streams as a kid, through the seasons. But once I graduated UMass Amherst, I took off for a two month western trip. Lived in Eugene, Portland, S.F., Oakland and I'm still in NorCal. I love it here. OK fire season sucks. Otherwise, I prefer it to New England. Maybe it was the Puritan hangover out there, the west coast called and I answered.
I'm in new England and life sounds so different out there.
One thing that turns me off is the population density there. It doesn't seem like you can easily escape to small rural towns and areas. I'm sure you can do this very easily in some areas, so I'm generalizing.
It would be strange not to experience 4 distinct seasons like we have in new England. Fall and winter being my favourite.
Costs seem higher than here. New England isn't the cheapest but compared to California Washington and Oregon it's much cheaper.
I live on a 1.5 acres of wooded property a 10 minute drive from my downtown office in a city of 175,000 people. An hour from the mountains. An hour from the ocean. In the PNW it's not dense and there really isn't much suburban sprawl (but I grew up in Ohio and suburbs here are just different). I'd say the PNW is very similar in culture and feel to New England.
Believe me when I say we don't want you here. We love the vastness of our natural landscapes, national parks, and TONS of small, historic towns. Honestly if you were the least bit curious about California you'd quickly discover that all of your statements are just dumb. Stay away.
It's a weird statistic because of how packed cities like NYC, Philly, DC, Boston, etc. are. It vastly skews the stat when the states are, in comparison, far smaller than the Californias of the world–states where you can go for hours and not know whether you're in a new city or the suburbs of the one you just left.
You can go on a nice Sunday drive and you're in the mountains / Amish country in Pennsylvania.
sorry, the east coast is way more dense. these two regions have the same number of people. So idk why OP is "turned off" by population density...
In Fresno and Bakersfield you are never more than 20 minutes from out in the sticks. Farms all over the place.
Mountains an hour away Iif that, the coast a couple hours away. The Mojave Desert not far away. We have it all right here.
Those are all horrible places to live. That's the bible belt. If you are into super conservative christian values and severe farming pollution, try living in any of the places listed above. I was born in Porterville and grew up in Visalia. In Visalia, there used to be a big sign on the main boulevard that says, "No blacks after dark". The specter of racism is still quite strong there.
If you want to live in nice places in CA, try Northern Cal or Southern Cal. Avoid the central valley like the plague.
Bro, you highlighted Boston Philly and NYC. Lol. I'm in new England and like a full day's drive from Boston/NYC.
"Bro", I was responding to someone who was talking about "NYC, Philly, DC, Boston, etc". And then I posted the population densities of the West Coast vs. New England, and New England is more dense. So you're wrong.
I moved from Indiana to Arizona. Besides the weather, I could live in either place and like it.
Local road races are better in southern Indiana. If you prefer club races like o do anyway. In Phoenix you run them in city parks and often on wider sidewalks. Back home the various local races were on the roads and were just a little more interesting.
I moved from Indiana to Arizona. Besides the weather, I could live in either place and like it.
Local road races are better in southern Indiana. If you prefer club races like o do anyway. In Phoenix you run them in city parks and often on wider sidewalks. Back home the various local races were on the roads and were just a little more interesting.
i like them both though.
Phoenix running during the winter must be great. Not too freezing. Not too hot.
I'm in new England and life sounds so different out there.
One thing that turns me off is the population density there. It doesn't seem like you can easily escape to small rural towns and areas. I'm sure you can do this very easily in some areas, so I'm generalizing.
It would be strange not to experience 4 distinct seasons like we have in new England. Fall and winter being my favourite.
Costs seem higher than here. New England isn't the cheapest but compared to California Washington and Oregon it's much cheaper.
You're talking about the populated west coast. Go to Idaho wyoming and Montana (where I live) and you'll find very distinct seasons and a low density of people.
The East Coast consists of cities, towns and countryside.
The cities and towns are very densely populated.
The West Coast consists of SUBURBS, National Forest and National parks.
There are a few urban neighborhoods- but I would call those "cities."
There are a few factory farms - but I wouldn't call that "country."
There are a few far out suburbs with a faux main Street - but those haven't been real "towns" since the 70s.
The inter-mountain west (AZ, ID, MT, UT, NV) follows the same pattern with one difference.
Those states also have pre-suburban land. This is where rich rednecks sometimes play Cowboys and where they collect subsidies and sell land for suburban development.
If you like "towns" and "countryside" you will have to stay east of the Rockies.
Personally- I like the national forest and the pre-suburban parts of the inter-mountain west. I try to ignore the fast growing and almost infinite suburbs.
I moved from Indiana to Arizona. Besides the weather, I could live in either place and like it.
Local road races are better in southern Indiana. If you prefer club races like o do anyway. In Phoenix you run them in city parks and often on wider sidewalks. Back home the various local races were on the roads and were just a little more interesting.
i like them both though.
Phoenix running during the winter must be great. Not too freezing. Not too hot.
Phoenix running in the winter is better than sex. Not that I know what the latter is like. :(
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I would avoid coming to California because it is inhabted by large bands of roving commies, angry lefties, America haters, homeless squatters, souless reprobates, dangerous driving texting soccer moms, hordes of privileged electric bike riding teens, new-age huksters, unhealthy jobby hoggers, clueless hemp heads, washed up Hollywood startlets, Instagram whores, and unrepentant corrupt Democrats.
I would avoid coming to California because it is inhabted by large bands of roving commies, angry lefties, America haters, homeless squatters, souless reprobates, dangerous driving texting soccer moms, hordes of privileged electric bike riding teens, new-age huksters, unhealthy jobby hoggers, clueless hemp heads, washed up Hollywood startlets, Instagram whores, and unrepentant corrupt Democrats.
That's mainly in San Francisco and Los Angeles. There are plenty of nicer places to live in California other than those 2 areas.
I would avoid coming to California because it is inhabted by large bands of roving commies, angry lefties, America haters, homeless squatters, souless reprobates, dangerous driving texting soccer moms, hordes of privileged electric bike riding teens, new-age huksters, unhealthy jobby hoggers, clueless hemp heads, washed up Hollywood startlets, Instagram whores, and unrepentant corrupt Democrats.
That's mainly in San Francisco and Los Angeles. There are plenty of nicer places to live in California other than those 2 areas.
Dude was being sarcastic. He wants him to stay out of his state (I assume he lives there) so he’s just trying to scare him off by making it sound like the classic LRCer’s worst nightmare.
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