There's no dilemma. Your job now isn't what you want. Nor is the manager. Cut your losses and move on. You dont need to pay your dues to make so little. That's just called getting screwed.
The average salary in the US is more than $50K. Do you have any idea how stupid and lazy the average person is? You definitely deserve more than this if you are even remotely competent and intelligent.
with promotion to manager in a year or so. I do not know what to do. I see the hours the current manger puts it and it seems miserable. It’s way more than 50 when you add up the after hours calls and weekend calls.
I don’t know if it worth grinding through without knowing how much more $ it will be.
I value time over $ and do not want to waste my youth in something that requires long hours while having no passion for the field of work.
Do what you want to do, brother. I do not know what your other job prospects are, but I would not do that. No freakin' way. Life is too short to work 50 hours a week.
That's a big salary in little college towns, empty flyover states, and Trumpster-Nazi-villes.
No, that is not a BIG salary anywhere in the US. It goes further in some places than others, but it absolutely is not a BIG salary. At most, it is an OK salary in some areas. 50 hours a week working? Nah...I wouldn't (and didn't) do that.
Depends where you live- in a small town, 50k might be enough to get by. In California, you'd probably qualify for public assistance. In Australia, it would be criminal to pay you so little. Your employer would be heavily fined and maybe face felony charges down under.
Unless you have a job you genuinely look forward to doing each shift, you should ALWAYS be looking out for a better position. One that satisfies your priorities more than your current position. This could be better pay, less hours, more or less travel, etc...
I recently ran into that situation. I was working 40hrs/wk at one job and 10-20hrs/was at a part-time job. Combined with my commute time, I wasn't getting to spend adequate time with my spouse and frequently had one day weekends. I personally don't like to live like that. A job posting came up that offered a significant increase in pay and I applied. I got was offered the position, accepted, and put in my notice at the full-time job I was working. I was honest with them. The new position meant I wouldn't have to work so many extra shifts and I could spend more time with my spouse. I also cut back my second job to one 10hr shift every other weekend. I was prepared to step down fully from that position as well because I would be making as much or more than previously. But they were fine with me reducing my hours and I like working with them.
You have to look out for you. That said... I would remain at your current position until you are offered something better and complete the hiring process. Then give proper notice and be professional about it. Most employers understand when it's a matter of improving your quality of life. If they don't, you don't want to work for them anyway.
The three years are a sunk cost. Forget that. Your mindset should be, "would I apply for my current job knowing the potential and demands?". If no, plan a move.
If you're wondering if you can do better, you probably can. What I've observed is that people with ambition, even if they are are only moderately intelligent, can climb the ladder if they give themselves the chance to do so. Send out resumes, build skills that make you more marketable, network.
My story isn't exactly the same, but I was at a job just two years ago where I worked about 50 hours per week and made 50k/year. I quit that job to go to grad school, another job opened up while I was in graduate school that paid $58k/year with only about 20hrs of work per week, I applied and got that job, AND I'm still getting to go to graduate school and will be in a position to make $100k/year or more once I'm done. Looking back, all I can think of is wtf was I doing working at my old position as long as I did. Some of the people I worked with were awful and downright stupid, tons of busy work, and there was no way for me to ever move up. I stayed because it was familiar, and I didn't know what else to do for a long time. Made the leap, and things got WAY better almost immediately.
Any person who is moderately smart, likeable, ambitious, etc, should be pulling at least 50k/year off a regular 40hrs/week. I know people who are none of those things yet have somehow still ended up making $70k/year or more doing little more than causing problems. You can do it, man. Start working at moving on to better things.
If you're wondering if you can do better, you probably can. What I've observed is that people with ambition, even if they are are only moderately intelligent, can climb the ladder if they give themselves the chance to do so. Send out resumes, build skills that make you more marketable, network.
My story isn't exactly the same, but I was at a job just two years ago where I worked about 50 hours per week and made 50k/year. I quit that job to go to grad school, another job opened up while I was in graduate school that paid $58k/year with only about 20hrs of work per week, I applied and got that job, AND I'm still getting to go to graduate school and will be in a position to make $100k/year or more once I'm done. Looking back, all I can think of is wtf was I doing working at my old position as long as I did. Some of the people I worked with were awful and downright stupid, tons of busy work, and there was no way for me to ever move up. I stayed because it was familiar, and I didn't know what else to do for a long time. Made the leap, and things got WAY better almost immediately.
Any person who is moderately smart, likeable, ambitious, etc, should be pulling at least 50k/year off a regular 40hrs/week. I know people who are none of those things yet have somehow still ended up making $70k/year or more doing little more than causing problems. You can do it, man. Start working at moving on to better things.
Good post but the key isn't to job hop too often (not saying you are). My current role is 42k (boss liked me and fought hard to get me from 38k) and there's no future growth, I am looking but my fiancée wants me to stay in this role for several years (at least until '25) for stability reasons. I've been there since 8/2020. But it's an easy job and gives me time to apply to other jobs.
Plus the mortgage industry is going to tank probably this year as interest rates rise and people quit messing with the housing market.
My issue is that I’ve already put in 3 years worth of paying my dues. Now that I have seen what running the business is like and how many hours the currently manager puts, with the plan of me taking over in about of year puts me on a dilemma.
if I turn down the promotion I basically wasted 3 years at low wage but high responsibility position. But it almost doesn’t seem worth the promotion now that I’ve got a real look at what it is going to be like.
Just because 50k was the previous manager's salary, that doesn't mean that has to be your salary. Figure out if there is a number where you would take the job, then say I need $X a year to take this job, and make your case for it. Find out what other companies are paying their managers on both a yearly and hourly basis. If the company isn't willing to pay $X, walk away. If they are, great, they were probably underpaying the last person.
Sounds like you're promoting to a crap job anyway, why would you work your tail off for that. The whole point of working your tail off is because you know in a couple years you will be making twice as much for doing twice as important (resume-important) work.
Depends on what you want. I see advertisements all the time in my area (not CA) which advertise entry level manufacturing or warehouse jobs starting at 20-24/hr.
My issue is that I’ve already put in 3 years worth of paying my dues. Now that I have seen what running the business is like and how many hours the currently manager puts, with the plan of me taking over in about of year puts me on a dilemma.
if I turn down the promotion I basically wasted 3 years at low wage but high responsibility position. But it almost doesn’t seem worth the promotion now that I’ve got a real look at what it is going to be like.
You are thinking in terms of sunk costs. You've learned a lot in those 3 years. Like what you want long term. And what you're worth. And you've gained a lot of transferable skills. Anyone who works hard for 3 years and is on the cusp of a promotion can take trust experience elsewhere.
Now, I'm not arguing that you do that. I just want you to think about it more broadly. This 3 years have not been a waste of time.
This.
There is no such thing as "paying your dues," for a business. Employers have no loyalty for employees, and employees should only give the same loyalty back. Loyalty being and intangible characteristic here, however it must be somehow tangibly demonstrated and for you, that would be that they are paying you exactly how much they value you.
They would replace you if they had a better option, and you should feel free to do the same. If your skills don't translate to a higher paying job elsewhere, then do you really have skills or have you really learned anything worthwhile?
Stop the complacency and make a damn move. Honestly I could start with zero dollars and make 50k in like 2 weeks if I wanted to. Surround yourself with successful people if you want to be successful. If your peers are broke and always complaining or engaging in petty gossip 24/7, how the hell could you expect to do much better than them? They say people are the sum of their 5 closest 5 friends. So ask yourself, what are those you spend the most time with like? They're probably like you. Make some moves and stop complaining or else you simply can not expect change when you don't live and breathe pursuing greatness.
the people you are calling nazis are the same people responsible for making sure you have running water, heating and cooling, electricity for your vibrator. Without those (trump nazis) you would be dead, because you wouldn't know what the fck to do.
There you'll learn your TRUE worth. Anything less than generational wealth in exchange for a casual 15-hour work week is unjust. Stop being a wageslave and free yourself. By the way, do you have anywhere you'll be able to crash rent free for a while?
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