Nick Willis. Still. By his own design and need to remain relevant.
Nick Willis. Still. By his own design and need to remain relevant.
Josette “get me on camera” Norris
its all about me wrote:
Josette “get me on camera” Norris
I'm fine with her being on camera now and then.
OozmaKappa wrote:
You kidding? It's Chelimo. I believe the positive spin on it is to say Chelimo has learned how to become more marketable than his peers. But the truth is that he routinely resorts to obnoxious theatrics to obtain the media spotlight.
And he’s completely justified in doing so seeming as he’s literally been the best 5000m runner in the US for 6 straight years.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ELcwmfCOwpwa little scoopa bean dip wrote:
Ligma wrote:
He's fun to watch, but I definitely think Craig Engles fits into this category. Although, I think his desire for attention can lead him to do cringey things like chugging a beer after running 4:01.
Did he actually do that? Or is this standard letsrun conflation of two separate events intended to paint an undesirable picture of a person based on multiple unrelated facets of their personality?
Skip to 1:15 of the video.
No idea what your gender or age is, but this sounds like a classic case of "You're just not the target demographic, nothing to take personal." Yeah the high schoolers do love it. He came to my city and the city's running program paid him to do a youth out reach meet up/jog and the local high schoolers loved it. And on race day he was stopped at least 15 times before the race and 40 times after the race and was kind and down to earth talking with thee high schoolers and college age kids, taking photos, and signing things. They are the audience who loves his mullet and mustache, so he plays it up for his fan base, not because he's insecure.
Even seeing him watch the men's mile at the Nike Pre Classic, he may have gotten second, but he made that race so entertaining to watch, and raised his hand on the last bend to encourage the fans to cheer. The stands, both old and young, loved it. He's popular because he doesn't take himself too seriously in a good way. He's bringing a level of entertainment and youth interest to the sport that the so so serious athletes aren't bringing.
It was a road mile and during the summer circuit. A group of pro milers ran many back to back weekends traveling to difference cities and ran on the streets. Of course they're not going to go sub 4 every single race in that summer. It's the focus on fast times only/new PRs only that's ruining the sport. People need to celebrate and enjoy each race, rivalry, and race dynamics more.
By having the inter-competition rivalry of watching the milers basically do an American tour was so entertaining and good for track and building a new fan base. My city Pittsburgh, was one of the cities they raced at. I think he won the race before, then came to my city and got second, then the next stop was that Brooklyn mile where he won. It's fun and was such a great community event for each city that hosted. Despite winning second in Pittsburgh they still handed him a beer to drink on the podium. The crowd loved it. Plus he interacted with the crowd and the fans way more than the other pros did. That level of comfort of being okay with putting yourself out there makes him really approachable, and he's super down to earth and gives people the time of day when they do go up to him. It helps build the sport up.
runnereunner22 wrote:
It was a road mile and during the summer circuit. A group of pro milers ran many back to back weekends traveling to difference cities and ran on the streets. Of course they're not going to go sub 4 every single race in that summer. It's the focus on fast times only/new PRs only that's ruining the sport. People need to celebrate and enjoy each race, rivalry, and race dynamics more.
By having the inter-competition rivalry of watching the milers basically do an American tour was so entertaining and good for track and building a new fan base. My city Pittsburgh, was one of the cities they raced at. I think he won the race before, then came to my city and got second, then the next stop was that Brooklyn mile where he won. It's fun and was such a great community event for each city that hosted. Despite winning second in Pittsburgh they still handed him a beer to drink on the podium. The crowd loved it. Plus he interacted with the crowd and the fans way more than the other pros did. That level of comfort of being okay with putting yourself out there makes him really approachable, and he's super down to earth and gives people the time of day when they do go up to him. It helps build the sport up.
Never said I disliked Craig, I just found his post-race drinking antics to get a bit cringey after a while. I remember another race last summer where he was posing with a case of beer after running like crap. To me, it was coming off less as "I'm just a free-spirited party animal" and more as "I'm an alcoholic who uses drinking as a crutch." Remember, this was in the context of narrowly missing an Olympic team to dudes he should have beaten at the Trials.
The prize has to go to Shelbo. Nothing screams "LOOK AT ME" more than begging for money on a gofundme to fund your legal defense for doping and constantly posting on socials about it (including posting about training to strava and flaunting that you followed BTC to training camp)
If she counts as a "current" distance runner, Mary Cain.
If Miss Cain doesn't count, Molly Seidel.
runnereunner22 wrote:
No idea what your gender or age is, but this sounds like a classic case of "You're just not the target demographic, nothing to take personal." Yeah the high schoolers do love it. .
I am over 30 and male. I talk to runners of all genders and ages and have literally never come across one person that likes the way Craig acts, including a couple of high school runners, but granted it is a limited amount of people that I have had a discussion with about him. And we can agree to disagree, but someone who acts the way he does, is definitely showing his insecurity. Needs constant attention and and literally acts like he's 13 or 14. I initially had mixed feelings about him and then I watched him at one of the meets before the trials last year where he ran an 800 and then jumped into the 5,000 as a workout. There were many people in the race that were going for PR's and taking the race seriously, even if they were only 14:40-14:50 5k types. But Craig had to make sure every single person in the stadium knew that he was just doing a workout and that this was very easy to him. Kept waving to people and laughing throughout the race. Yes Craig, we know, a runner of your level can run a 14:40 5k in his sleep, even after a hard 800. No need to make the guys racing their hearts out feel like crap about themselves.
Up north hey wrote:
I am over 30 and male. I talk to runners of all genders and ages and have literally never come across one person that likes the way Craig acts, including a couple of high school runners, but granted it is a limited amount of people that I have had a discussion with about him. And we can agree to disagree, but someone who acts the way he does, is definitely showing his insecurity. Needs constant attention and and literally acts like he's 13 or 14. I initially had mixed feelings about him and then I watched him at one of the meets before the trials last year where he ran an 800 and then jumped into the 5,000 as a workout. There were many people in the race that were going for PR's and taking the race seriously, even if they were only 14:40-14:50 5k types. But Craig had to make sure every single person in the stadium knew that he was just doing a workout and that this was very easy to him. Kept waving to people and laughing throughout the race. Yes Craig, we know, a runner of your level can run a 14:40 5k in his sleep, even after a hard 800. No need to make the guys racing their hearts out feel like crap about themselves.
I’m sorry Craig beat you in that 5k 😂
#freesalazar wrote:
If Miss Cain doesn't count, Molly Seidel.
Ding, ding, ding, we have a winner. Molly "broken ribs" Seidel.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ELcwmfCOwpwLigma wrote:
a little scoopa bean dip wrote:
[quote]Ligma wrote:
He's fun to watch, but I definitely think Craig Engles fits into this category. Although, I think his desire for attention can lead him to do cringey things like chugging a beer after running 4:01.
Did he actually do that? Or is this standard letsrun conflation of two separate events intended to paint an undesirable picture of a person based on multiple unrelated facets of their personality?
Skip to 1:15 of the video.[/quote
I like him even more after seeing this video!
say it again. wrote:
Hocker,with his stupid hair and stupid running style.
+1
And that dude who ran Olympic 10000m for USA with man bun and arm warmers
the macdaddy og yoo wrote:
I’m sorry Craig beat you in that 5k 😂
LOL. I would have been approaching the 3200 meter mark when they were finishing.
I understand some people will find Craig entertaining and others like myself will be annoyed by him, but in the end we should all be supporting our top runners, so I will pull back on some of my comments about Craig. I will just look away when a grown man brags to the camera about his ability to grow a mustache.
I like Craig. It was funny when he said he had never heard of the On running group. He likes to stir things up.
talent evaluator wrote:
#freesalazar wrote:
If Miss Cain doesn't count, Molly Seidel.
Ding, ding, ding, we have a winner. Molly "broken ribs" Seidel.
Another vote for Molly
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