I think the issue is small studies can show promising results but they should fast track bigger studies with this
I think the issue is small studies can show promising results but they should fast track bigger studies with this
rojo wrote:
Steve The Addict OFFICIAL -----^^^^^ wrote:
Pfizer, Moderna have a monopoly on the "cure" because they have the money/the power and want more of it while simultaneously smearing and eliminating any potential threats to their business.
I don't want to that cynical. But it blows my mind that all of these reporters writing about Covid for two years haven't been all over this.
There are over two dozen off-label drugs and over-the-counter supplements that have shown promise in preventing or reducing the severity of Covid.
They have been deliberately suppressed. Why they have been suppressed is up for a debate that would take pages to discuss, but here is a list of promising therapeutics/prophylactics. From this list, you can find supporting data on these treatments, including fluvoxamine. The second link below shows the data on vitamin D, which I have been actively promoting since April 2020... 20 months ago. There are over 200 linked papers on vitamin D. Unfortunately for your friend, vitamin D works best when taken prophylactically, but it wouldn't hurt to try it.
Oh, one other point. Covid attacks the body in three ways. Treatments should address all three pathways.
https://c19adoption.com/https://c19vitamind.com/Yeah well medicine is complicated and drug interactions are very complicated
You can do a lot more harm than good if people mix the wrong types of medication and lots of people are on lots of different medication
So we have a system where trained people over see what medication a lot of people can get access to. Cuz unfortunately people on their own don't usually make good decisions
So anyway it's simple to say why isn't every thing that has a hint of benefits widely available but it's just not that simple
Things that have Effectiveness in small trials usually do not have the same effectiveness in large-scale use. There is also the fact that most of the stuff has specific timing where it is effective the rest of the time is very ineffective
[quote]mild and highly transmisable wrote:
Yeah well medicine is complicated and drug interactions are very complicated
You can do a lot more harm than good if people mix the wrong types of medication and lots of people are on lots of different medication.
But these vaccines are safe?
Top minds of letsrun are on the case!
https://www.covid19treatmentguidelines.nih.gov/therapies/immunomodulators/fluvoxamine/Rojo Bot wrote:
There are literally dozens of articles about this drug
Someone said Fluvoxamine is an SSRI...
Isn't that what antidepressants or antianxiety meds are? Doesn't seem like that adds up. Would be like taking a laxitive for a headache...
rojo wrote:
A friend recently tested positive for Covid-19. I started researching if there was anything that might help him.
Rojo, since your friend might not have access to a doctor who would write an off-label prescription for fluvoxamine, you should look into OTC supplements. There are several with almost no risk and some potential for help.
I would suggest...
Vitamin D: 20,000 IU/day until symptoms stop
Quercetin: 2 capsules/day
Zinc
Melatonin
Nigella Sativa
Gargle with recommended mouthwash
Povidone-iodine diluted 1% solution nasal spray
Pepcid AC (famotidine)
Here is the source for these recommendations including dosage, except for Famotidine. It is the second link below. The referenced study used 80mg/day, which would be 4 Pepcid AC tabs/day.
https://covid19criticalcare.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/FLCCC-Alliance-I-MASKplus-Protocol-ENGLISH.pdfhttps://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7299656/Anecdotal accounts of isolated or small sample incidents thar "may have" worked have never been convincing or persuasive.
fisky wrote:
There are over two dozen off-label drugs and over-the-counter supplements that have shown promise in preventing or reducing the severity of Covid.
They have been deliberately suppressed.
The double standard you have for vaccine efficacy and safety on the one hand, including for long term effects, versus your promotion of drugs that are little tested, untested or tested and found wanting on the other hand, is really striking. You want to see long-term data on vaccination after a more than a year and billions of administered doses, and you're ready to believe any low-quality, unpublished study based on shaky data that attributes fantasies like hundreds of thousands of deaths to vaccination - but you're happy to promote two dozen drugs based on an anonymous website.
Who is it who has suppressed these supposed treatments? How did they manage that all over the world? In every media outlet? And affecting doctors AND pharmaceutical companies AND insurers?
Doctors want to treat patients. They have the training and the experience to evaluate medical studies. Do you really think they're all just standing by while their patients die so they can collect pharma kickbacks? Insurance companies are gigantic. If they had a way to treat Covid-19 for $5, do you think the insurance companies would willingly pay out many times more? Then there are all those PhD scientists working for Big Pharma. You seriously think all they do is suppress cheap and effective treatments so they can sell expensive useless treatments? That's an interesting view of humanity you've got there. You're reaching loony toons levels of conspiracy thinking here, and it's sad to see.
jamese1045@hotmail.comwrote:
Anecdotal accounts of isolated or small sample incidents thar "may have" worked have never been convincing or persuasive.
BINGO
fisky wrote:
rojo wrote:
A friend recently tested positive for Covid-19. I started researching if there was anything that might help him.
Rojo, since your friend might not have access to a doctor who would write an off-label prescription for fluvoxamine, you should look into OTC supplements. There are several with almost no risk and some potential for help.
I would suggest...
Vitamin D: 20,000 IU/day until symptoms stop
Quercetin: 2 capsules/day
Zinc
Melatonin
Nigella Sativa
Gargle with recommended mouthwash
Povidone-iodine diluted 1% solution nasal spray
Pepcid AC (famotidine)
Here is the source for these recommendations including dosage, except for Famotidine. It is the second link below. The referenced study used 80mg/day, which would be 4 Pepcid AC tabs/day.
https://covid19criticalcare.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/FLCCC-Alliance-I-MASKplus-Protocol-ENGLISH.pdfhttps://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7299656/
By the way, I have early signs of covid starting yesterday afternoon... congestion, scratchy throat, sinus drainage, and a fever. I am doing everything on this list, except Pepcid AC and Nigella Sativa, which I ordered for express shipping to my house today. My cost for everything on this list was about $100 with the most expensive being Pepcid AC and Quercetin.
Preventing the vast majority of people from hospitalization in advance is far, far more effective than trying a cure once they have it, because the 'cure' usually has to be taken before it gets to a certain point and people often don't take it seriously until it gets to that point. Doctors and nurses often don't even know about various treatments. My mother-in-law was told just now by a nurse that the pfizer pill hadn't been cleared by the FDA when it had been weeks ago. But for all those doctors who know about all the potential treatments, they obviously don't work all that well because 1200-1300 are still dying every day.
rojo wrote:
A friend recently tested positive for Covid-19. I started researching if there was anything that might help him.
I came across Fluvoxamine. I'm blown away that that the people in charge aren't making this available without a prescription at every pharmacy in America.
Allysia Finley J in the WSJ wrote:
Researchers at McMaster University in Hamilton, Ontario, last winter launched a large clinical trial in Brazil. The results from their trial, published in the Lancet in October, were stunning: Fluvoxamine reduced the odds of hospitalization or emergency care by 66% and death by 90% among unvaccinated high-risk patients who mostly followed the treatment regimen—comparable to monoclonal antibodies. There was no difference in adverse effects between the fluvoxamine and placebo groups.
The three fluvoxamine trials were conducted while different variants were circulating, so there’s no reason to think the drug wouldn’t work as well against Omicron. A 10-day course of fluvoxamine costs $4, compared with the $2,100 the U.S. government has been paying for monoclonal antibodies, and $530 to $700 for a course of the Pfizer (Paxlovid) and Merck treatments. Multiple drugmakers manufacture fluvoxamine and could ramp up supply without much difficulty were demand to increase.
I can't believe I had never heard of it .Am I missing something? This seems like a legit study.
Instead, I've heard repeatedly of Paxlovid from Pfizer which also " reduced the risk of hospitalisation or death by almost 90%." Guess what? An article in the Wash Post says "there are less than 180,000 doses of the Pfizer drug, and it takes months to manufacture."
Sources below.
Doc/Scientists, can you tell me why everyone who tests positive for Covid-19 isn't being told about this drug which is readily available? I'm all for testing people. I've taken 2 at home Covid-19 tests during the holidays. If you test positive, stay away from Grandma and Grandpa and other vulnerable people. But shouldn't we also help the people who test positive?
https://www.wsj.com/articles/is-fluvoxamine-the-covid-miracle-drug-we-have-been-waiting-for-oral-pill-cheap-hospitalization-11640726605#comments_sectorhttps://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2021/12/30/omicron-variant-challenges-covid/
You have to test positive before you can start taking this drug for it to be effective. 2 pills a day for 10 days....just get the vaccine...
"Treatment with fluvoxamine (100 mg twice daily for 10 days) among high-risk outpatients with early diagnosed COVID-19 reduced the need for hospitalisation defined as retention in a COVID-19 emergency setting or transfer to a tertiary hospital."
Given the history of pharmaceutical companies and their ruthless profiteering, deceit, lies, obfuscation, fraud and corruption, how can a person as intelligent as yourself be "blown away" by this ?
fisky wrote:
rojo wrote:
A friend recently tested positive for Covid-19. I started researching if there was anything that might help him.
Rojo, since your friend might not have access to a doctor who would write an off-label prescription for fluvoxamine, you should look into OTC supplements. There are several with almost no risk and some potential for help.
I would suggest...
Vitamin D: 20,000 IU/day until symptoms stop
Quercetin: 2 capsules/day
Zinc
Melatonin
Nigella Sativa
Gargle with recommended mouthwash
Povidone-iodine diluted 1% solution nasal spray
Pepcid AC (famotidine)
Here is the source for these recommendations including dosage, except for Famotidine. It is the second link below. The referenced study used 80mg/day, which would be 4 Pepcid AC tabs/day.
https://covid19criticalcare.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/FLCCC-Alliance-I-MASKplus-Protocol-ENGLISH.pdfhttps://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7299656/
Almost exactly what I took when I first got Covid. There is literature showing that Famotidine and Celebrex work well together, but I didn’t take Celebrex. There is also anecdotal research that melatonin enhances the effect of acyclovir (valacyclovir prodrug).
Anyhow, that is a good list. Ionic iodine is very virucidal and should be taken orally and nasally. The zinc should be a chelated, elemental form.
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