why aren't you personally vaccinated?

I am vaccinated. I respect those who do not want to do so, and will not ridicule them. Try it!

Poopy Paul wrote:

Also, being a Christian I'm opposed to it being made with aborted fetal cells.

Those are my reasons.

Who told you that?

I didn't take a vax because I'm dumb and also easily excited by "conspiracies"

In fact, I love conspiracies so much that I'll take any random things people say and believe them to construct a new conspiracy!

The new conspiracy is my reason for getting up in the morning lol.

Anyway, don't take the vax because you'll turn into a Clinton cyborg in around 16.5-19 years from now. I read it online.

Swaglord__69 wrote:

I didn't take a vax because I'm dumb and also easily excited by "conspiracies"

In fact, I love conspiracies so much that I'll take any random things people say and believe them to construct a new conspiracy!

The new conspiracy is my reason for getting up in the morning lol.

Anyway, don't take the vax because you'll turn into a Clinton cyborg in around 16.5-19 years from now. I read it online.

Those who buy the Big Pharma lies live in a rather scary fantasy world.

Scary but boring. Not even interesting.

I hope I am wrong but the jab takers may very well pay a terrible price in terms of their health over the coming years,

They are being used as guinea pigs

hmm. wrote:

Poopy Paul wrote:

Also, being a Christian I'm opposed to it being made with aborted fetal cells.

Those are my reasons.

Who told you that?

I hope Poopy Paul doesn't take any form of over the counter drug then: Ibuprofen, Tylenol (acetaminophen), aspirin....just about everything we use today has been developed off that initial fetal stem cell. Please don't let your principals fail you if you ever need to go to the hospital

I'm vaccinated but a similar question you could soon ask me is why didn't I get a booster? Well my reason is that I'm young and healthy, the second dose I got made me very sick and feel terrible. I'd rather take my chances getting covid which I'm unlikely to get in the first place, and from everyone I've seen who has gotten covid I'll probably be sick for a few days with a fever at the worst, maybe it'll even feel like a cold which was what my wife's symptoms were like. So I choose now to take the odds that I probably won't get covid and if I do it won't be too bad, over forcing myself to get the booster and feel terrible for a full day, and then get another booster in less than a year and do it all over again. Oh and by the way getting the booster still doesn't guarantee I won't get covid, so I'll add that to reasons why I'm not getting boosted.

1. You realize Corona virus' has been studied for a couple decades right? After that detailed research, getting a vaccine for a particular strain (like COVID-19) is very simple, just like the flu vacccines get adjusted every year.

2. False

3. False. Have some side effects, but extremely low probability. Many of those same side effects (myocarditis) are much more probably and long term effecting if you contract covid.

4. MRNA vaccines will show you any side effects within the first 3-5 weeks. It doesn't change your DNA, and it's cleared from your system. So if you don't have any side effects right away, you won't develop any.

5. True. But the percentages don't lie. A wide enough of the population contracts it, we could see millions in the US dead, Plus long-term effects (fatigue, myocarditis, loss of smell/taste, ect., can last long term. Maybe a 5% chance of getting a long-term or deathly effect, but that's a much larger percentage than the vaccines.

6. Provide proof of that statement. If the variants are hitting the more vulnerable population that are vaccinated...theirs a reason they needed to be vaccinated in the first place. but the more time this disease has time to mutate and keep circling around the world, this cycle will just keep going and going and going.

I'm not against people not getting the vaccine...but usually those people are also not putting in the precautions to prevent the spread too. And they are more vocal spouting disinformation and may be swaying people that can't take care of themselves (the dumb idiots that are unfortunately everywhere)

Multitude of reasons. A few of note:

1) I had Covid already. While variants may arise in the future that escape natural immunity incurred from my prior illness, the trend seems to be more transmissible and less virulent (ie omicron vs alpha strain). And it would seem as though that same problem would arise if I went and got one of the shots based on the alpha variant at this point anyways…

2) Long family history of heart and auto-immune issues. I spent several weeks digging into any reputable source I could find discussing mRNA vaccines and/or coronavirus vaccines pre-pandemic. My thought was that if the concerns from some when Operation Warp Speed was announced were the profit-incentive of “big Pharma” (typically, that argument was coming from those hesitant on the right circa summer 2020) or the incompetence of our institutions of power (typically, that argument was coming from those hesitant on the left circa summer 2020), it might be worthwhile to read up on the technology and the problem at hand. Short version: one particularly memorable piece from Nature circa 2019 discussed two particular concerns that more long-term data was needed on regarding risks from mRNA based vaccines: auto immune and heart (most notably, thrombotic events) issues.

3) I have never in my adult life knowingly taken medication using aborted fetal cells in their development.

4) The vast majority of people who have gotten seriously ill and/or died with Covid were in poor health. The societal obligation arguments I have heard wish to imply that I should do something that could have effects on my health for the sake of entire segments of the population who - not all, but certainly large swaths of which - have not taken ownership of their own health. I refuse to shoulder the burden of providing a false sense of security for coworkers who drink heavily, smoke, do not eat healthy or exercise and have set themselves up to be at greater risk of severe outcome were they to contract the virus due to their obesity, heart disease, diabetes, chronic lung issues and the like.

I have made very different decisions for the betterment of my health for the duration of my adolescent into adult life than the bulk of our society. For that reason, the above 1-3, and multiple others, I feel comfortable approaching how I address my personal risks from Covid differently than others might feel they need to.

hmm. wrote:

Poopy Paul wrote:

Also, being a Christian I'm opposed to it being made with aborted fetal cells.

Those are my reasons.

Who told you that?

So, Pfizer and Moderna did not use HEK 293 and J&J did not use PER.C6 lines?

Masked and vaccinated wrote:

Because people are idiots.

They don't want to be told to get vaccinated and yet they stop at a red light.

Vaccinations are a public health measure just like traffic lights. Just think about it for a minute.

All of our lives are full of rules or unwritten rules because you need them to function as a society.

You don't believe me?

Just imagine people could go to Walmart naked because of "Freedom".

Why have liberals turned on Freedom? This is the bigger question. I received both doses coming on a year now. I will eventually get a booster, but not anytime soon. No rush for me. Similar to the flu vaccine. I do get these annually, but I'm in no rush.

I'm more afraid of the vaccine than I am of the disease. I don't do well with vaccines anyway, bad reactions, and these ones were rushed to the market in about a quarter of the time it takes for a vaccine to get onto the market. If the vaccines are so safe why do the makers need protection from lawsuits?

LOL.

[quote]selfish idiot wrote:

1. You realize Corona virus' has been studied for a couple decades right? After that detailed research, getting a vaccine for a particular strain (like COVID-19) is very simple, just like the flu vacccines get adjusted every year.

So we finally got a vaccine for the common cold did we?

2. False

No it's true. The jab does not stop transmission. Even Big Pharm admits as much.

3. False. Have some side effects, but extremely low probability.

Far more adverse events and deaths reported to VAERS on the jab on 10 months than on all other vaccines ver the pst 33 years.

4. MRNA vaccines will show you any side effects within the first 3-5 weeks.

No long term studies have been done so we have no idea what long term consequences may arise.

You take the jab and you a lab rat. Period.

If you are not college educated, are blue collar, and working in a dispensable position with no future, you need some way of asserting control over yourself, which you can do by bashing science’y stuff that you don’t understand but depend on anyway. Bill Gates doesn’t need a vaccine to put a chip inside you, rather the company he founded already controls a chip or two in practically every household in the form of windows software.

Masked and vaccinated wrote:

Just imagine people could go to Walmart naked because of "Freedom".

Honestly, I wouldn’t care. Nudity is not shocking to me.

657 days of Covid hysteria. 378 days of mRNA shots. Barely a sniffle in all that time.

In South Africa, Omicron has an infection fatality rate of 53 deaths per 100,000 infections. That is less than half the IFR of the typical seasonal flu.

I have decided that my immune system can naturally handle anything Covid throws at it.

Common Sense.... Period.

There are lots of good arguments for mandating vaccination? But not for simply leaving peoples bodies the f alone? Yes, you sound very impartial.

I'll give you a hint, there are never any good arguments for mandating a medical procedure. At least not in a civilized world.

And no, I am not one of the dumbazzes that jumped to get vaccinated. These same people have been swallowing pharma pills since childhood and getting themselves jabbed every year and they've been getting sicker and sicker every year, have constant injuries, constant pain, constant inflammation, etc. I take no part in that idiocy, and hence never get sick and have no pain and function at 100% at age 48 and I can only watch in bewildered amusement as they continue to deteriorate. Every one of them, from age 25 to 65. You really believe thats the way to go? Its your life.

just a few of the handful wrote:

hmm. wrote:

Who told you that?

https://www.nebraskamed.com/COVID/you-asked-we-answered-do-the-covid-19-vaccines-contain-aborted-fetal-cells

So, Pfizer and Moderna did not use HEK 293 and J&J did not use PER.C6 lines?

Most English speaking people would say Pfizer and Moderna vaccines are not “being made with aborted fetal cells”. Just like when a chef tastes his food, you don’t say the food was made with chef tongue cells.

J&J vaccine indeed uses fetal cells to make the vaccine with the disclaimer that fetal cells are not present in the vaccine that is being injected inside people. Just like it is impossible to make cow’s milk without producing calves as a byproduct and killing most of the male ones for veal or other utilitarian purposes, but those who are vegetarian or even cow worshipping don’t think of milk as being made with calves or associate milk with calf murder or violence or cow or calf cells although those cow udder cells were the production vehicle for milk.

The fetuses were already aborted way back in the 70s and 80s, and the fetal cell lines currently used in R&D are in vitro lab descendants of those cells.

But you do your religion. Hope you didn’t commit the sin of taking the polio vaccine also “made with fetal cells” by your logic