carmine9 wrote:
sbeefyk2 wrote:
Yup, I bet there was a valid reason for the Germans exterminating the Jews. We should give them a break and congratulate the Nazi's on a perfectly valid genocide.
The Holocaust again?
Can we discuss any crime without having to reference the Holocaust?
How about the extermination of the native peoples of the Americas?
Maybe we can use that every now and again?
Or The Holdomer in what is now Ukraine then part of Soviet Union, Uganda with Idi Amin, Rwanda had one, Cambodia with Pol Pot (They had a movie on that called Killing Fields) Armenians in Turkey (Though that is argued along political lines if it happened)
Usually Genocide follows Demonization of a Group and Gun Confiscation, Could it Happen in USA, Well Democrats are calling for Gun Confiscation and Straight White Males and/or Christians are being demonized, Though I can't see Biden doing it, but if AOC or any of the Squad gets to be President, who knows.
All those big wigs who were bored out of their mind in Tokyo with everything being locked down didn't want to go. Joe bailed them out.
douglas burke wrote:
carmine9 wrote:
The Holocaust again?
Can we discuss any crime without having to reference the Holocaust?
How about the extermination of the native peoples of the Americas?
Maybe we can use that every now and again?
Or The Holdomer in what is now Ukraine then part of Soviet Union, Uganda with Idi Amin, Rwanda had one, Cambodia with Pol Pot (They had a movie on that called Killing Fields) Armenians in Turkey (Though that is argued along political lines if it happened)
Usually Genocide follows Demonization of a Group and Gun Confiscation, Could it Happen in USA, Well Democrats are calling for Gun Confiscation and Straight White Males and/or Christians are being demonized, Though I can't see Biden doing it, but if AOC or any of the Squad gets to be President, who knows.
Yeah, good point. Christians and Straight White Males are SO oppressed and powerless!
Biden wasn't in Toyko either. No one cares what he does. Athletics and politics don't mix. The athletes couldn't care less if he is there.
Very weak. We should be truly boycotting and not letting any American go. I don't care about missing one winter Olympics, it is more important to do the right thing. This is not doing the right thing. This is a meaningless gesture to appease some people.
While I'm all for a boycott of sorts, I am not in favor of boycotting Olympics. It's nothing but a political statement that hurts our athletes.
Now sanctioning China is a different story. Trump did quite a good job at hurting China economically. Maybe start there?
Too bad the big empires still feel the need commit unspeakable Holocausts while at the same time proclaiming undying support for Human Rights. When you read the justifications for the German Nazi Holocaust, US Hiroshima/Nagasaki Holocaust, US Vietnam/Cambodia Holocaust, Palestine Holocaust, Xinjiang/Uygur Holocaust, US African-American Holocaust, Rwanda Holocaust, Mongol/China Holocaust of Western/Central Asia, and so on, it's sickening.
the uyghur genocide story is purely fake news, a recent AP article debunked in entirely, the west is already changing their narrative to a "cultural genocide". This is almost a carbon copy of Tibet during the early 2000s leading up to Beijing 2008 Summer Olympics. A decade on Tibet is still thriving but you never hear about it in the western political sphere anymore.
America is using its some ole tactic of manufacturing consent, if you actually investigate into the stories, its dejavu of the Iraqi Incubator babies (the great lie of the first gulf war), WMD (the 2nd invasion of Iraq, which no evidence was found), sourcing evidence from a testimonials of limited few and running emotional stories to rile up support for more conflicts. Just look at the organisation ETIM (pre-2020 US government classified it as a terrorist organization, it has proven ties to Osama dating back to the late 90s), whom the US were still bombing in 2019 off the list. It just happens ETIM were behind countless terrorist activities in China during the late 2000s/early 2010s.
This is a diplomatic boycott, but China never invited the US president to attend in the first place. US saves face by saying they boycott, China saves face by saying we never wanted you to come (admist covid).
This is typical geopolitical mud-slinging.
The IOC and IAAF shouldn't be giving these major meets to China and Russia or even to Qatar. Have some decency.
actually live in China wrote:
the uyghur genocide story is purely fake news
Democrats don't let that stop their not-so-subtle racism from presuming them guilty.
China bad...Russia bad...Iran bad...repeat ad infinitum-and the marks suck it up. Anyone who hasn't figured out that what comes from the MSM is almost certainly propaganda is beyond hope.
Such a cute old man. He thinks this toothless virtue signaling will affect the CCP. Lol
Well said. However, while your comparison to Tibet may be an accurate one, I wouldn't say Tibet is "thriving." Whatever you want to call it there's been a systematic dilution of culture, annexing of land, destruction of landmarks and religious sites, capture and torture of some inhabitants and Tibetans/religious figures, the Dalai Lama still in exile, a train direct to Lhasa, minerals/resource/land taken for China's gain, Chinese military running the show, and the region zoned as "Tibetan Autonomous Region" which required (maybe still requires) a special tourist visa made annoyingly/prohibitively expensive to acquire, partly intended to keep folks from seeing the aforementioned reality and reporting on it. Not an expert on this subject matter, only my own observations, but allowing a region and ethnic group to still somewhat exist in a shell of its former self is barely thriving.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IRlIll0ZjpYactually live in China wrote:
the uyghur genocide story is purely fake news
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xhhCFDFlvckceccione wrote:
~ China has universal healthcare.
Communists in China have failed to provide healthcare to all their people.
Leibnitz or Newton wrote:
Who cares about Winter? It's gravity assisted.
poor people (i.e. losers) like you can't afford skiing or snowboarding
flyingfrog wrote:
any back story? Why are the Chinese doing this? Must be some reason for this behavior however invalid.
The back story is China is a communist country that does not like religion, especially very 'intense' Islam (I don't know a better word, maybe strong beliefs Islam?) These Muslim people are not 'luke warm' Muslim people, they very strongly practice their faith and China doesn't want a lot of Chinese people to be like that. Chinese Communist Party, their political ruling party, is officially atheist.
China does not want islam to spread deeper and deeper into its country. They do not want their way of life spreading across the country. This is why they are basically locking up the citizens of Western China, all bordering the edge of the middle eastern muslim countries. The whole thing with the Taliban taking over the government of Afghanistan again is a concerning fact for China since they border that same area in western China. China does not believe in military force outside of its own borders, but they are meddling in the middle ground at the moment in those western china borders. A lot of those borders are very indecisive, Kashmir, Uyghur, Ladahk, areas around Tajikstan. So again, China doesn't want islam spreading deeper into China and that's why they are doing what they are doing.
ceccione wrote:
~ China has started no wars. Ever.
~ China has universal healthcare. covid proved america's healthcare is really just a fake gucci belt
You really think China has good health care for all of its over 1 Billion people? That's funny. They might have decent health care for some of the people in its biggest cities, but that's it. Rural China is a pretty bad place to live, and so are the poor parts of its cities. GDP per capita in China is only $10k USD equivalent, they don't have the means to give good health care to all of its citizens, they have way too many people and not enough resources to provide for everyone. And they do start wars, just internally. Their people are often oppressed, being very forceful with Taiwan and Hong Kong.
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