Haile Gebrselassie and Feyisa Lilesa are prepared to fight on the front line of Ethiopian war!

From totalitarian led communism by the soviet union, to Authoritarianism under the tigray, not surprised they support fighting for an elective government.

Tigray followed a similar pattern to what the taliban did, kill anyone who opposes you being in government and storm the capital.

former U.S.M.C. rifleman2 wrote:

Americas economic war is not unique wrote:

This fight is left wing communism vs. right wing capitalism. With some racial bs thrown in for good measure. Each side believes they’re “morally” correct. Sound familiar.

Gebs large capitalistic wealth is being threatened. You better believe he will fight. He will go Scarface on those commies.

That's all they are fighting about? This can be solved with reasonable adults willing to negotiate. What steps did F.D.R. take to lessen the desires of those on the left from going 100% socialist in U.S? What steps did L.B.J. take when socialism was spreading from Caribbean to South America? Both sides give a bit and everyone goes home to their families.

That’s a first world perspective. However this is more like Vietnam. A mostly rural poor nation that is used to warfare. They have a hard time solving things like “reasonable adults” because often basic needs aren’t being met. People are literally starving so they are more desperate and willing to use violence.

What Geb should do though is use his fame to get more international influence involved. But maybe he wants the fight? The government he supports is blocking aid to a starving people. A people that has been brutalized by Eritrean mercenary forces.

I have no chicken in the fight. But you’re right that there needs to be greater compromises. Neither communism nor capitalism are “evil.” They’re different economic approaches and can both be influenced by power and greed. The problem is power and greed are hard to contain.

trollism wrote:

David Puddy wrote:

You are the idiot, idiot. You actually think you had some highly intelligent response that no one else knew?

Idiot.

Why always insulting with the random handles?

Why not be a man and use your usual one?

So pathetic. That's why your wife left you.

What a tool. You call people idiots and someone calls you an idiot back. Then you act like you're tough for using a registered handle and you consider THAT a man--on an anonymous forum? I support the poster, you are an idiot and your boyfriend probably left you.

Wonder if galen Rupp would be willing to go on the front line against blm

Americas economic war is not unique wrote:

This fight is left wing communism vs. right wing capitalism. With some racial bs thrown in for good measure. Each side believes they’re “morally” correct. Sound familiar.

Gebs large capitalistic wealth is being threatened. You better believe he will fight. He will go Scarface on those commies.

This is nonsense. The US backed the Tigrayan People's Liberation Front to remove the Communist government in the previous civil war. From 1991 to 2019 the TPLF governed Ethiopia as an ethnic federation which just about held the country together, whereas the communist government was hostile to separatism and governed centrally. The TPLF have encouraged ethnic nationalism and so are not blameless but this new Prosperity Party wants to govern centrally again which the TPLF are opposed to.

It's a recipe for disaster as multi ethnic countries such as Ethiopia generally only hold together either with strong central leadership (Derg or Emperor) or as confederations. The PP offer neither. The TPLF are left wing whereas the PP are center/right wing but you are being mischievous to say that's the root cause of this conflict.

That’s not right either. The Tigrey unseated the communist controllers but then refused to give up power and shamed, bribed and hurt those who opposed.

Ask the 90% who opposed them

Yg111101 wrote:

Five is the magic number wrote:

So there will be six "ethiopians", maybe even nine, in the next Olympics?

Letsrun.com message board will go home devastated.

ha-ha-ha, THAT was funny!

cramberrys wrote:

Exactly. The US is trying to Balkanize Ethiopia, all in order to destabilize East Africa. It must not happen.

And here I thought it was the Chinese buying up land and taking food away from all over East Africa.

Have you considered the idea that this might be, or will be turned into, a proxy land war between The US and China?

Five is the magic number wrote:

Yg111101 wrote:

Letsrun.com message board will go home devastated.

ha-ha-ha, THAT was funny!

I take that back, this whole thing is no laughing matter. :-(

Five is the magic number wrote:

El Keniano wrote:

This is no joke. The rebels are advancing on the capital. If they take Addis, Ethiopia as we know it will cease to exist. All likelihood is it will disintegrate like Yugoslavia and we'll be discussing Oromiya as the other distance running power besides Kenya.

So there will be six "ethiopians", maybe even nine, in the next Olympics?

Maybe none. If Ethiopia splinters into a group of small, unimportant nations, it may be easier for WADA to conduct anti-testing, as well as for Coe to make a decision to suspend any that aren't co-operating.

If the rebel army seize the capital, I hope they dig up all the doping records and evidence of doping regarding Geb and the rest. That would really rub Ethiopia's nose in it. It might be like the end of the GDR when all the doping files were unearthed.

This is what they will be fighting for.

Funrunkid wrote:

That’s not right either. The Tigrey unseated the communist controllers but then refused to give up power and shamed, bribed and hurt those who opposed.

Ask the 90% who opposed them

They won every public election since 1995 after the US installed them after the fall of communism. In 2019 the other members of their coalition outside Tigray threw them out of government. Some of their former governing coalition partners went onto form the Prosperity Party and banned the TPLF from standing. Basically an internal coup within the government.

As I said, neither side is blameless however the actions of the Ethiopian government in ostracizing Tigrayan politicians and undermining federation has sparked a new civil war and they are hopelessly unable to hold the country together.

Heard Geb is going to be armed with his Vaporfly heat seeking missile that chases and instantly vaporizes enemy combatants.

trollism wrote:

David Puddy wrote:

You are the idiot, idiot. You actually think you had some highly intelligent response that no one else knew?

Idiot.

Why always insulting with the random handles?

Why not be a man and use your usual one?

So pathetic. That's why your wife left you.

Says trollism the anonymous troll always virtue signalling about trolling under only one handle.

Tatar... wrote:

Funrunkid wrote:

That’s not right either. The Tigrey unseated the communist controllers but then refused to give up power and shamed, bribed and hurt those who opposed.

Ask the 90% who opposed them

They won every public election since 1995 after the US installed them after the fall of communism. In 2019 the other members of their coalition outside Tigray threw them out of government. Some of their former governing coalition partners went onto form the Prosperity Party and banned the TPLF from standing. Basically an internal coup within the government.

As I said, neither side is blameless however the actions of the Ethiopian government in ostracizing Tigrayan politicians and undermining federation has sparked a new civil war and they are hopelessly unable to hold the country together.

The TPLF may not declare that they’re North Korea, however, they do lean towards the communist system. Once they got kicked out of the central government they’ve attempted greater regional autonomy in Tigray from the capitalistic “prosperity” party. I mean come in the name “prosperity” shouts capitalism vs. communism.

Geb used his running wealth to transitioned into a successful business man. He is the Trump of Ethiopia. You better believe his willingness to fight is all about protecting his cash flow.

All wars are about MONEY. Not a single one has been about anything else.

The western countries have no business supporting a faction in this and they've pretty much been caught supporting the TPLF.

Watch them try to UN or unilateral-sanction the Ethiopian government into submission. Standard playbook will be in effect soon now that their hand is tipped.

I'll agree to half of this. Geb certainly has finance and thinks the Prosperity Party are in his interests. They are pro-capitalism and the TPLF is a socialist and ethnic nationalist party. The West supported them during the previous civil war which was essentially a Cold War battle. It hasn't proven a wise move as the TPLF encouraged ethnic conflict which the communists never did but the West supported them because they were not aligned with the Soviet Union.

The problem with the PP is it wants a small centralized government and to sideline the regional assemblies. In a multi-ethnic nation, it won't work - you either need a big central government or a devolved confederal structure like Switzerland or Belgium. Other nations with communist or imperial governments have struggled to maintain their integrity - think how Yugoslavia descended into war, the nations were not able to form a functioning state. The TPLF at least recognized some of this and were opposed to a centralized Ethiopian government.

It's easy to forget the Cold War only ended 30 years ago and there are many of these countries that are still affected, long after the Western Bloc. If the PP are successful, whatever's left of Ethiopia (maybe just Oromia) will be a state for which Westerners can invest and do business with. It's a question of whether the marginalization of the smaller minorities and the ensuing bloodshed involved to bring that about will be worth it (probably not).

No, they aren't. The '94 Rwandan genocide. The 1991-95 war in former Yugoslavia. There are many reasons for wars. Tribalism, nationalism, old scores, ideologies - hatred of the "other" - economics may only be part of it, and sometimes very little.