Soy What? wrote:
Lol at the symping morans willingly blind to a perfectly clear transgression, or simply making excuses for what is clearly a planned, intentional move. Grabbing the last bottle gets a 10/10 from the judges for his diligent practice.
Where did I mention the "transgression"? Where did I make excuses?
I mentioned the racism in your comment, which is 100% accurate.
JosePublico wrote:
Perch wrote:
Amdouni knocked the entire line down...except for the last bottle which he conveniently snagged for himself. The runner right behind him was trying to grab a bottle but couldn't because they were all knocked down. That's the only other hand I see other than Amdouni's. Kipchoge was well clear before Amdouni pulled his stunt. Pretty clear cut on the video.
You see what you want to see.
Actually I'd rather not see crap like this happen but the video is pretty clear.
Soy What? wrote:
"I'm shocked...shocked!" to find out he is a North African immigrant, good honest muslim boy would NEVER cheat!
https://nypost.com/2021/08/08/morhad-amdouni-sparks-olympic-water-bottle-controversy/https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HMIyDf3gBoY
I don't know if he's muslim, but he's another North African immigrant suspected of doping
https://www.leparisien.fr/sports/athletisme-morhad-amdouni-soupconne-de-dopage-repond-aux-accusations-11-01-2020-8234064.phptrack record on the track wrote:
I’m inclined to think the worst of this person, but I don’t think it was intentional. Running fast, hand out, maybe takes his eye off the bottles for a second. It’s not the easiest thing to do at speed in traffic.
No way. That was an intentional act.
This is probably the reason why: He mistrusted the contents in the water, fearing he'd test postive!
From the linked article:
Have you become more suspicious?
Absolutely. Today, I force myself to pay attention to everything. Not long ago, I went for a drink on the Champs-Élysées. I left to go to the bathroom. Coming back, I did not dare to finish my cappuccino! Apart from my immediate family, I no longer know who I can trust ...
If that dickbrain actually finished, he should be DQ'd out of the final results.
What a totally unnecessary move, something only a sociopath would think of doing.
track record on the track wrote:
I’m inclined to think the worst of this person, but I don’t think it was intentional. Running fast, hand out, maybe takes his eye off the bottles for a second. It’s not the easiest thing to do at speed in traffic.
NOPE
This was 1 million percent intentional.
zxczxczxcz wrote:
Soy What? wrote:
Lol at the symping morans willingly blind to a perfectly clear transgression, or simply making excuses for what is clearly a planned, intentional move. Grabbing the last bottle gets a 10/10 from the judges for his diligent practice.
Where did I mention the "transgression"? Where did I make excuses?
I mentioned the racism in your comment, which is 100% accurate.
Where did I mention race? "North African" is not a race, any more than "North American"
Soy What? wrote:
zxczxczxcz wrote:
Where did I mention the "transgression"? Where did I make excuses?
I mentioned the racism in your comment, which is 100% accurate.
Where did I mention race? "North African" is not a race, any more than "North American"
In about 90% of your anti-African posts in the last 5 or 6 years, maybe?
zxczxczxcz wrote:
Soy What? wrote:
Where did I mention race? "North African" is not a race, any more than "North American"
In about 90% of your anti-African posts in the last 5 or 6 years, maybe?
Does the ridiculous quibble between the two of you cloud them fact that Amdouni (Hamdouni) is a POS?
Take your ridiculous exchange somewhere else.
This is 100%, completely unintentional.
They are running in 30° heat with high humidity, the guys hands are probably completely drenched with sweat, the bottles probably have condensation on them, running 3 minute k's, 30k into the race.
The first bottle he tries to grab probably gets knocked out of his hand because he hit the second bottle in the row, he then tries to grab another bottle, causing the same thing to happen down the whole table. The last bottle that he grabs isn't knocked out of his hand, because there is no other bottle to knock it out of his hand. Or maybe he was being more careful on the last bottle. At worst, this is a slightly clumsy move.
There are more water tables that all of the other athletes behind him grab a bottle off of only a few seconds down the road. He has moved well out of the way of the tables by this point, allowing the other athletes to grab water. If he was intentionally preventing people from getting water, why would he grab a bottle from the first table? This event benefitted him 0%, and negatively impacted the other athletes 0%.
Everyone here is making it seem like he slapped the bottles off of the first table, and proceeded to do that at every table for the rest of the race.
If you watch a higher quality recording of this event (plus all of the above), it is pretty easy to see that this is unintentional.
Is it possible that the 33-year-old athlete could have lacked lucidity to the point of overturning everything involuntarily, before miraculously pulling himself together to pick up the final bottle without problem? Hell no.
Had never heard of this idiot before.
Apparently, he has a somewhat "controversial" history in the sport, doesn't seem
to be a "beloved" or respected athlete.
What a complete jerkoff, that is easily the most unsportsmanlike and just plain
pointless action I've ever seen in a sporting event at any level of competition.
I really hope they vacate his finish, he doesn't deserve to be in the final results.
Jaguartron wrote:
This is 100%, completely unintentional.
They are running in 30° heat with high humidity, the guys hands are probably completely drenched with sweat, the bottles probably have condensation on them, running 3 minute k's, 30k into the race.
The first bottle he tries to grab probably gets knocked out of his hand because he hit the second bottle in the row, he then tries to grab another bottle, causing the same thing to happen down the whole table. The last bottle that he grabs isn't knocked out of his hand, because there is no other bottle to knock it out of his hand. Or maybe he was being more careful on the last bottle. At worst, this is a slightly clumsy move.
There are more water tables that all of the other athletes behind him grab a bottle off of only a few seconds down the road. He has moved well out of the way of the tables by this point, allowing the other athletes to grab water. If he was intentionally preventing people from getting water, why would he grab a bottle from the first table? This event benefitted him 0%, and negatively impacted the other athletes 0%.
Everyone here is making it seem like he slapped the bottles off of the first table, and proceeded to do that at every table for the rest of the race.
If you watch a higher quality recording of this event (plus all of the above), it is pretty easy to see that this is unintentional.
Do you really believe that?
At that point, he was running in the lead pack, so it's not like he had some kind of "seizure" and just did a "woops".
Only explanation is that is was some kind of half-assed attempt at "gamesmanship".
I'm guessing you've done a marathon or two. Did you ever come close to doing something like that?
I don't care how much duress a runner is under, it's never going to cause something like that to happen "by accident".
Jaguartron wrote:
This is 100%, completely unintentional.
They are running in 30° heat with high humidity, the guys hands are probably completely drenched with sweat, the bottles probably have condensation on them, running 3 minute k's, 30k into the race.
The first bottle he tries to grab probably gets knocked out of his hand because he hit the second bottle in the row, he then tries to grab another bottle, causing the same thing to happen down the whole table. The last bottle that he grabs isn't knocked out of his hand, because there is no other bottle to knock it out of his hand. Or maybe he was being more careful on the last bottle. At worst, this is a slightly clumsy move.
There are more water tables that all of the other athletes behind him grab a bottle off of only a few seconds down the road. He has moved well out of the way of the tables by this point, allowing the other athletes to grab water. If he was intentionally preventing people from getting water, why would he grab a bottle from the first table? This event benefitted him 0%, and negatively impacted the other athletes 0%.
Everyone here is making it seem like he slapped the bottles off of the first table, and proceeded to do that at every table for the rest of the race.
If you watch a higher quality recording of this event (plus all of the above), it is pretty easy to see that this is unintentional.
And by a miracle, he was perfectly able to grab the last one?
he should be banned and fined
It wasn't intentional. Y'all need to watch the video a few times.
Jaguartron wrote:
This is 100%, completely unintentional.
They are running in 30° heat with high humidity, the guys hands are probably completely drenched with sweat, the bottles probably have condensation on them, running 3 minute k's, 30k into the race.
The first bottle he tries to grab probably gets knocked out of his hand because he hit the second bottle in the row, he then tries to grab another bottle, causing the same thing to happen down the whole table. The last bottle that he grabs isn't knocked out of his hand, because there is no other bottle to knock it out of his hand. Or maybe he was being more careful on the last bottle. At worst, this is a slightly clumsy move.
There are more water tables that all of the other athletes behind him grab a bottle off of only a few seconds down the road. He has moved well out of the way of the tables by this point, allowing the other athletes to grab water. If he was intentionally preventing people from getting water, why would he grab a bottle from the first table? This event benefitted him 0%, and negatively impacted the other athletes 0%.
Everyone here is making it seem like he slapped the bottles off of the first table, and proceeded to do that at every table for the rest of the race.
If you watch a higher quality recording of this event (plus all of the above), it is pretty easy to see that this is unintentional.
I completely agree. Running in a group, super hot, very fast, he isn’t close to the table. We have all seen runners in pro marathons not managing to pick up bottles.
Here is the proof
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=saunzCkbugUStop the damn shaming
He's obviously a complete idiot as well - now the world can see he's blatantly try to cheat in front of tv cameras we all know he'd definitely do it behind closed doors, so those doping allegations seem a lot more likely to be true...
henryr wrote:
Jaguartron wrote:
This is 100%, completely unintentional.
They are running in 30° heat with high humidity, the guys hands are probably completely drenched with sweat, the bottles probably have condensation on them, running 3 minute k's, 30k into the race.
The first bottle he tries to grab probably gets knocked out of his hand because he hit the second bottle in the row, he then tries to grab another bottle, causing the same thing to happen down the whole table. The last bottle that he grabs isn't knocked out of his hand, because there is no other bottle to knock it out of his hand. Or maybe he was being more careful on the last bottle. At worst, this is a slightly clumsy move.
There are more water tables that all of the other athletes behind him grab a bottle off of only a few seconds down the road. He has moved well out of the way of the tables by this point, allowing the other athletes to grab water. If he was intentionally preventing people from getting water, why would he grab a bottle from the first table? This event benefitted him 0%, and negatively impacted the other athletes 0%.
Everyone here is making it seem like he slapped the bottles off of the first table, and proceeded to do that at every table for the rest of the race.
If you watch a higher quality recording of this event (plus all of the above), it is pretty easy to see that this is unintentional.
I completely agree. Running in a group, super hot, very fast, he isn’t close to the table. We have all seen runners in pro marathons not managing to pick up bottles.
Here is the proof
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=saunzCkbugUStop the damn shaming
Well said. That video exonerates him from blame. Haters gonna hate.