El Keniano wrote:Entertaining the treble idea implies the competition is cr*p.
Not unless she said that she expected to win 3 golds. Maybe she would take a gold, a silver, and a bronze from trebling, rather than two golds from doubling.
I would. The men have done many 5k/10K gold doubles. Nobody has ever trebled.
Theodore wrote:
Why are people already rubbishing the idea of the triple? Doing the 1500/5000 double successfully is not unheard of (see El Guerrouj 2004), and so far that's all that Hassan has done. Then why not give the 10k a shot at the end if you've run 29:06 this year?
Fair enough. But having her toughest race second made it harder. She wasn't the favorite in the 1500 even if she was fresh. She needed to be at her best to best to beat Kipyegon so running it first would have given her a better shot at winning all three.
But I have to give her credit, she could have done the "safe" 5K/10K double and probably pulled it off. Running the 1500 was always risky.
THOUGHTSLEADER wrote:
buzzcolorado wrote:
Anyone else see Sifan during the introductions? Did she look totally exhausted or is that her race face?
I think she is dead tired. She's only human after all. I think she knew this race was going to be a very big long shot at best. So feeling flat, tired and going into a near-certain defeat showed on her face. But once the gun went off, she did put in a spirited effort.
You could see in the race that she didn't have her usual fluid stride in the last 300m (which is exactly where she got destroyed). It looked like a big struggle for her, I mean even Muir smoked her at the end. She was tired from too many races, and the fall in the heats where she went on to win it certainly didn't help.
If she was like Djokovic, she would now withdraw from the 10,000m finals and say she is injured, but if she tries it after that heavy schedule u gotta at least respect her.
who is GOAT? wrote:
Fair enough. But having her toughest race second made it harder. She wasn't the favorite in the 1500 even if she was fresh. She needed to be at her best to best to beat Kipyegon so running it first would have given her a better shot at winning all three.
But I have to give her credit, she could have done the "safe" 5K/10K double and probably pulled it off. Running the 1500 was always risky.
Yes. Double gold in the long distances would have been rather likely. And she had done 1500/10k in Doha, so it would have been less spectacular to just repeat this (and with only silver or bronze in the1500m). Therefore the triple.
El Keniano wrote:
lke_4:25 wrote:
Disrespectful? That was her 5th race in the last week. If she was fresh she would have done whatever she pleased with that field. And the idea of the triple was not that far off for someone who debuted her half marathon in 65 minutes has multiple world records and already done the hardest double you can do winning gold in both.
Entertaining the treble idea implies the competition is cr*p. After she won the 5000 so easily everyone was talking as if it's a done deal. That's the very definition of lacking respect her rivals.
She never said or even implied shes gonna win all three, and I think any serious track fans would realize that wasn't gonna happen as well. What she's trying to achieve was clearly one Gold plus two medals which would be an extraordinary feat in modern era and therefore arguably even more impressive than Double Gold (5k/10k) which Mo have already done twice.
If anything, I think you're the one who's being disrespectful here.
El Keniano wrote:
lke_4:25 wrote:
Disrespectful? That was her 5th race in the last week. If she was fresh she would have done whatever she pleased with that field. And the idea of the triple was not that far off for someone who debuted her half marathon in 65 minutes has multiple world records and already done the hardest double you can do winning gold in both.
Entertaining the treble idea implies the competition is cr*p. After she won the 5000 so easily everyone was talking as if it's a done deal. That's the very definition of lacking respect her rivals.
Come on El Keniano!
Has she said she will beat all her competitors easily? She is trying the impossible triple of 15, 5 and 10. That's great for the sport and we all are interested what she can do against Gidey in the 10. I think she will fail, but let's see.
Why can't you just be happy that your favourite has won, why the need to downgrade others? Please, you are not Coevett.
great win for Faith wrote:
El Keniano wrote:
Entertaining the treble idea implies the competition is cr*p. After she won the 5000 so easily everyone was talking as if it's a done deal. That's the very definition of lacking respect her rivals.
Come on El Keniano!
Has she said she will beat all her competitors easily? She is trying the impossible triple of 15, 5 and 10. That's great for the sport and we all are interested what she can do against Gidey in the 10. I think she will fail, but let's see.
Why can't you just be happy that your favourite has won, why the need to downgrade others? Please, you are not Coevett.
He’s not Kenyan either.
Bane of Gilgamesh wrote:
great win for Faith wrote:
Come on El Keniano!
Has she said she will beat all her competitors easily? She is trying the impossible triple of 15, 5 and 10. That's great for the sport and we all are interested what she can do against Gidey in the 10. I think she will fail, but let's see.
Why can't you just be happy that your favourite has won, why the need to downgrade others? Please, you are not Coevett.
He’s not Kenyan either.
I don't care about his nationality.
T&F utility man (200-3000)m wrote:
El Keniano wrote:
Tactical beast, Faith. Sifan was disrespectful to the others for even entertaining the idea of that triple. Faith shut her up well and good.
+1
It is near impossible in our modern T&F era to earn gold in one Olympics: 100m/200m/400m or 200m/400m/800m or 400m/800m/1500m or 800m/1500m/5000m or 1500m/5000m/10000m or 5000m/10000m/Marathon, even if Olympic schedule were expanded to 12 days to allow no scheduling conflicts.
Warholm would've done the 400/400mh double if the scedule allowed for it though.
You’re the only Kenyan I’ve “met” who is an assh*le. What… mad you aren’t fast so you try to crap on every other country? Loser.
great win for Faith wrote:
Bane of Gilgamesh wrote:
He’s not Kenyan either.
I don't care about his nationality.
How woke of you. Surely such virtue signaling will be rewarded.
El Keniano wrote:
Tactical beast, Faith. Sifan was disrespectful to the others for even entertaining the idea of that triple. Faith shut her up well and good.
Yup!
Faith beat Sifan Hassan like a rented mule.
I also tend to think talking about the treble was disrespectful.
I can understand doubling but a treble!
Sifan Hassan thought she was super human. ..
I think it was a certain boxer who said that in boxing, everyone has a plan until they get hit in the face or something close to that. One of the commentators talked about it a couple of nights ago.
Sifan had a treble plan........and then........she met Faith!
Sifan is less skinny and stupid than 1/2 the children who post here
Curious_Cat wrote:
El Keniano wrote:
Entertaining the treble idea implies the competition is cr*p. After she won the 5000 so easily everyone was talking as if it's a done deal. That's the very definition of lacking respect her rivals.
She never said or even implied shes gonna win all three, and I think any serious track fans would realize that wasn't gonna happen as well. What she's trying to achieve was clearly one Gold plus two medals which would be an extraordinary feat in modern era and therefore arguably even more impressive than Double Gold (5k/10k) which Mo have already done twice.
If anything, I think you're the one who's being disrespectful here.
+1
True.
Phillypharm wrote:
El Keniano wrote:
Tactical beast, Faith. Sifan was disrespectful to the others for even entertaining the idea of that triple. Faith shut her up well and good.
Yep, disrespected the others by beating them all in the 5000m and beating all but two in the 1500m and still pending results from the 10000m tomorrow…
El Keniano is a fcking 1diot.
A hard no to your “logic.” The whole aim of sports is to push oneself as far as possible, to achieve things that appear unlikely/impossible. This idea that Hassan should stick to events where she is most likely to win and that she should avoid difficulty is the antithesis of real competition. Hassan knows things about heart, grit and respect that El Keniano and NativeSon cannot fathom.
UnPC Tzzlr wrote:
great win for Faith wrote:
I don't care about his nationality.
How woke of you. Surely such virtue signaling will be rewarded.
Are you saying that you not only judge people by their nationality, but you assume that anyone who doesn't must be lying to try to look good? That's a dark place to be, man. "Malice signalling" we could call...
Added a bronze to two golds, in the end. Pretty damn impressive, considering she did not just save energy for the 10k, but instead tried to win the 1500m with her speed.
rojo togo wrote:
Curious_Cat wrote:
She never said or even implied shes gonna win all three, and I think any serious track fans would realize that wasn't gonna happen as well. What she's trying to achieve was clearly one Gold plus two medals which would be an extraordinary feat in modern era and therefore arguably even more impressive than Double Gold (5k/10k) which Mo have already done twice.
If anything, I think you're the one who's being disrespectful here.
+1
True.
Sorry, I was also wrong. She just did the impossible, wow!
You’re wrong. She’s the Best track runner you would ever seen. No one ever has shown that kind of range and don’t even think anyone ever would accomplish 3 metals at this distances same Olympics. If she had had a better schedule she could have won the 3 golds unfortunately for her fatigue caught up her kick in the last 150m was not there in the final.
Amazing accomplishment 2 golds and 1 bronze. Remember this you will never ever see this again unless she tries again in the WC or next Olympic Games.