Haters Beware. Elijah "Lion" Manangoi is Back!

birdbeard wrote:

"Oh, okay.

He always seemed to get the better of Tim when they raced healthy but I feel like Tim is on another level now. Plus, just after they suggested Manangoi was beating Tim in workouts they ran the impossible games 2000 and Manangoi looked awful. He was 15 seconds back."

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Actually Elijah was almost 30 seconds behind Jakob in the impossible games! (4:50.01 to 5:18.61

I am not a hater neither towards Elijah nor towards any other runner but I doubt very much that Elijah will come back to his former strength.

I think he peaked before 2019 not seeing him come near 3:30 anymore.

By the way: As stated in another thread I think Tim peaked in 2019 ( he could have run 3:27 or faster in Monaco that year if he had gone all in).

Young George Manangoi took a year off in 2020 but have competed this year improving rapidly but his best time is only 3:38.

So it will be hard times for poor El K. I fear he will leave us again.

El Keniano wrote:

birdbeard wrote:

Where did he say he was beating Tim in workouts?

Last year, just before the ban.

When he was all doped up?

Even if you're correct, which you aren't. You sound like there isn't a slew of potential1500m world-beaters coming through for Kenya. What do you make of Kamar Etyang, who's just 18? He, Abel Kipsang, beat Tim at the trials.

Fistic abilities wrote:

El Keniano wrote:

Last year, just before the ban.

When he was all doped up?

Did he fail a test?

Dont forget U20 World Championship are taking hold in a few days in Nairobi.

objectiveobserver wrote:

I am not a hater neither towards Elijah nor towards any other runner but I doubt very much that Elijah will come back to his former strength.

Elijah seems enraptured by his own workouts. For someone with something to prove, do you think he'd set such low expectations for himself?

Doper or not, no one will even know Manangoi has returned. He will be behind Jakob, Tim, Kerr, Katir, Wightman, Hocker, McSweyn, Kipsang, Tefera, and Filip. He may be competitive with B. Mischler but I'm not sure by next year. Mischler will likely be another 1-1.5 seconds faster.

cometh the great wrote:

Doper or not, no one will even know Manangoi has returned. He will be behind Jakob, Tim, Kerr, Katir, Wightman, Hocker, McSweyn, Kipsang, Tefera, and Filip. He may be competitive with B. Mischler but I'm not sure by next year. Mischler will likely be another 1-1.5 seconds faster.

If Elijah is back to his form he is firmly in the group with Kerr, Wightman, Kipsang, McSweyn and so on. People are forgetting how good he was.

It will also be exciting to see how Etyang and Vincent Keter (Rongai) race at World Juniors in a couple of weeks. These are potential podium talents for Kenya. If they continue to progress along with Elijah coming back, it looks like a golden era for Kenya at 1500 in line with that of the very early 2000s (Ngeny, Lagat and then about 5 guys who could finish top 5 in the world on a given day)

In his last interview before the whereabouts blunder, Elijah seemed convinced he was in 3:26 shape:

“3:26 I can do, I am sure 150% it’s just a matter of time,” he said, referring to challenging Hicham El Guerrouj’s world record of 3:26.00 that has stood since 1999.

Tim, on the other hand, wasn't as cocky which lends more credence to their workout disparity claims.

https://olympics.com/en/news/team-cheruiyot-rivalry-impossible-games

El Keniano wrote:

In his last interview before the whereabouts blunder, Elijah seemed convinced he was in 3:26 shape:

if this was a British cheater, would you be calling it a 'whereabouts blunder'?

trollism wrote:

El Keniano wrote:

In his last interview before the whereabouts blunder, Elijah seemed convinced he was in 3:26 shape:

if this was a British cheater, would you be calling it a 'whereabouts blunder'?

He delegated his whereabouts filing to an assistant. That's been proven. British athletes are generally comfortable enough to do it themselves. No, I would not call it a blunder if he were British. Your point?

El Keniano wrote:

trollism wrote:

if this was a British cheater, would you be calling it a 'whereabouts blunder'?

He delegated his whereabouts filing to an assistant. That's been proven. British athletes are generally comfortable enough to do it themselves. No, I would not call it a blunder if he were British. Your point?

He's a cheat, he dodged tests and got busted.

The question about his performance once his ban for cheating is over is whether he goes back on the juice again.

I'm guessing he will.

Not for you to decide if he's a cheater or not. He'll be back to winning ways soon and you'll be crying your tepid, tastes-like-dishwater English tea soon.

El Keniano wrote:

Not for you to decide if he's a cheater or not. He'll be back to winning ways soon and you'll be crying your tepid, tastes-like-dishwater English tea soon.

Don't drink tea and I'm not English.

You are though.

A little bird from the RAC tells me when asked if he still sees sub-3:26 in his future. answered: "Absolutely". Also thinks he would've won Tokyo easy.

Oh, Elijah´s statements are of course safe evidence that he not only would have won the gold but also in WR time!

I don´t think many here - apart from El K and THOUGHTSLEADER - believe Elijah will be a threat to the toprunners in the future. He was already going strongly backwards in 2019 before he made his "whereabout blunders".

If his much younger brother George is struggling to come back how should it be possible for Elijah?

They don't have to believe anything, just don't say he came from nowhere when returns to winning ways. Hard to run at your best when encumbered by injury. Also, if he was beating Tim in workouts as recently as July last year, not a safe bet to write him off.

https://www.instagram.com/p/CSdnIDOoMEX/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link

El Keniano wrote:

Notice has been sent and he's not messing around. He'll be in Eugene, Oregon next year. Everyone currently best enjoy the next few meets because those will be their last opportunities to win anything.

Sounds determined and like he's just finished a workout and he's mighty pleased with the results. Get ready to eat crow, haters.

https://twitter.com/Manangoi_lion/status/1422470066650689552?s=20

No more 4am Nairobi traffic jams then?

Was it ever determined why Tim distanced himself from his former training partner?

trollism wrote:

El Keniano wrote:

Not for you to decide if he's a cheater or not. He'll be back to winning ways soon and you'll be crying your tepid, tastes-like-dishwater English tea soon.

Don't drink tea and I'm not English.

You are though.

That has become clear over the years. He’s faking- we all know that by now- but a great character to have to challenge the norm on these boards.