600mRunner wrote:
Cadiz wrote:
His last 200m in his 1’43 race looked like a video game.
You do have to wonder, if someone is willing to take cocaine, what else might they be willing to take?
Burritos? You think coke is a gateway drug to burritos??? Holy hell, god forbid this kid gets hooked on the hard stuff.
His cardinal sin was breaking Seb Coe's under 23 record. Brits are safe if they don't break any of Coe's records.
Seriously, though, cocaine is an illegal stimulant as well as a far more dangerous drug than marijuana. Sorry to see one of the UK's best 800m prospects get busted, but he's got to be banned at least a month for this. It's on the books, it is a performance-enhancing substance (Javier Sotomayor, the hj wr holder, was also nabbed for this), and it is dangerous to human health, so it meets the WADA criteria for banned substances on at least two counts.
Excessive levels of caffeine are banned by the NCAA, primarily because it can cause heart damage when used excessively. The permitted amount is equivalent to six cups of coffee.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HSfV4qXu18g
To quote Rick James, "Cocaine is one hell of a drug"
Good thing he's white.
High hopes wrote:
Cocaine is no more dangerous than weed.
Agree to disagree.
A college roommate of mine died from freebasing cocaine.
This is just another chapter in a season of crazy stories.
What could possibly be behind this? Options - I have no opinion on what could be the legitimate one.
1) He's just a simple "Jack the Lad" who got excited after making the British team and did a line with his mates?
2) He used a small amount deliberately to "get himself going"? (mental? heart pumping?) I don't know?
3) He used it in an attempt to mask something else he was doing (unlikely but maybe out of desperation???)
Just can't think of what else it could be?
Not their business if he used coke. Or weed. Or booze.
[quote]zxcvcvxz wrote:
His cardinal sin was breaking Seb Coe's under 23 record. Brits are safe if they don't break any of Coe's records.
Seriously, though, cocaine is an illegal stimulant as well as a far more dangerous drug than marijuana.
Not a PED for 800 meter running and so should not be anyone's business
#iamhuman
faster than 14.10 wrote:
It does not help running. Come on letsrun . Tells us why it does count. Oh he’s not American. Never mind.
Is cocaine use illegal in England? Marijuana use is legal in Oregon.
THOUGHTSLEADER wrote:
[quote]High hopes wrote:
Cocaine is an actually dangerous substance unlike Richardson's marijuana use.
I am not supporting cocaine use in any way, and I think I know what you mean (he's not going to drop over dead suddenly from marijuana use, unless I'm unaware of something), but I would like to point out that in other ways marijuana is definitely not not dangerous. I've known people whose mental illness was exacerbated (or possibly brought on, who knows) by marijuana use. There is data to back this up. Cue the marijuana apologists here, I'm sure, but I'm tired of people pretending that there are not individual or societal effects.
On another topic, with the amount of strain a person puts on his body in running a 1:43 800 meters, I can't imagine anyone thinking it's a great idea to see what happens it he adds cocaine to the mix. Poor decision making and I hope the guy involved gets his life straightened out.
Salvitore Stitchmo wrote:
This is just another chapter in a season of crazy stories.
What could possibly be behind this? Options - I have no opinion on what could be the legitimate one.
1) He's just a simple "Jack the Lad" who got excited after making the British team and did a line with his mates?
2) He used a small amount deliberately to "get himself going"? (mental? heart pumping?) I don't know?
3) He used it in an attempt to mask something else he was doing (unlikely but maybe out of desperation???)
Just can't think of what else it could be?
the evidence for any of this stuff being a masking agent is zero. Dude likes doing coke does coke is the simpliest explaination. same thing with gal likes wee does weed. If you dont use them, it isnt like you would keep a stash around the house.
coke is definitely more dangerous than weed. Enough to matter? probaly not. Your risk of a cardiac event goes up 4x but from a very small starting umber
A shocking number of people asserting that a stimulant drug is definitively not a PED for 800m.
post nups wrote:
A shocking number of people asserting that a stimulant drug is definitively not a PED for 800m.
+1
High hopes wrote:
Sorry, man, but that's such a boomer view on drugs. Cocaine is no more dangerous than weed. Tbh, I've never known anyone have any issues taking cocaine (other than heightening how annoying they are) but I do know someone who suffers from cannabis-induced psychosis and has had to be institutionalized.
Haha. No one has more experience with recreational cocaine than boomers, kid.
post nups wrote:
A shocking number of people asserting that a stimulant drug is definitively not a PED for 800m.
if i'm going to use stimulants for performance enhancement, cocaine is on the bottom of that list
for fun, however...
600mRunner wrote:
Cadiz wrote:
His last 200m in his 1’43 race looked like a video game.
You do have to wonder, if someone is willing to take cocaine, what else might they be willing to take?
Lol, Billy Konchellah convicted of drugging and raping minors in Finland. This has no bearing on whether or not he took drugs as an athlete. Anyone who says otherwise is a racist.
Sha'Carri Richardson takes weed, this has not PED effects and it says nothing about whether she would take peds. Anyone who says otherwise is racist.
Kip Keino arrested for embezzling millions of dollars. Gets away with it after intervention from Kenyan parliament. The case says nothing as to whether he was willing to cheat in his athletics career. Anyone who says otherwise is a racist.
Sydnee Maree goes to prison for fraud. This says nothing as to whether he was willing to cheat in his athletics career. Anyone who says otherwise is a racist.
Daniel Komen is arrested for multiple counts of financial fraud. This says nothing about whether his 7:20 was doped. Anyone who says otherwise is a racist.
Said Aouita tells multiple athletes to take PEDs, lies on his application about coaching El G, has a doctor who was arrested for supplying athletes with EPO. This says nothing about whether or not he doped in his career. Anyone who says otherwise is a racist.
20 year old British kid is found with minute traces of cocaine that could have come from kissing a girl who had taken some or from smoking contaminated weed. Dirty doper who needs to be banned for life. Anyone who says otherwise is probably Coevett.
All I know is, Oliver would have run .007 faster if he hadn't taken that one step 3 inches closer to lane 2 late in turn 3.