No way he's getting a 7 figure deal. NOT once chance. He runs a niche event in a niche sport. Most people don't care which Americans won the 1500 and many runners don't even know that Centro won the gold in 2015.
Now you have a kid who hasn't even run the standard and made exactly 1 Oly team (he got in on a technicality) and won exactly nothing. There is a 1500M champ in the NCAA every year.
You know what’s always going to be there?
The university of Oregon
Take the money and run!
Passant wrote:
He need a coach like Salazar. But this running has becomes difficult, any runner that do noticeable progress is suspected of doping.
The OT winner needs a coach like Salazar? Why?
Of course he isn't getting 7 figures .. barely any runner gets that.
However, 1500m is not a niche event in running .. it's one of the top 3 most popular events in all of athletics (100m-1500m/mile-marathon)
He also didn't make the Olympics on a technicality. There is a clear qualifying route and he qualified...
hocker fan wrote:
Of course he isn't getting 7 figures .. barely any runner gets that.
However, 1500m is not a niche event in running .. it's one of the top 3 most popular events in all of athletics (100m-1500m/mile-marathon)
He also didn't make the Olympics on a technicality. There is a clear qualifying route and he qualified...
Quality wise, his OT win was at least 3:32.
Occam wrote:
No way he's getting a 7 figure deal. NOT once chance. He runs a niche event in a niche sport. Most people don't care which Americans won the 1500 and many runners don't even know that Centro won the gold in 2015.
Now you have a kid who hasn't even run the standard and made exactly 1 Oly team (he got in on a technicality) and won exactly nothing. There is a 1500M champ in the NCAA every year.
Letsrun, where you can win a U.S. championship + multiple NCAAs and still have won "exactly nothing".
Depends how you define the word, technicality. Either everyone got in on a technicality if you define it as a rule. Bit nobody got in one if you define it as a small technical detail in the rules. I think it is the first; nobody got in on a technicality because it is a major part of the process. You have to be one of the first three who either hit the standard or the world ranking.
Occam wrote:
No way he's getting a 7 figure deal. NOT once chance. He runs a niche event in a niche sport. Most people don't care which Americans won the 1500 and many runners don't even know that Centro won the gold in 2015.
Now you have a kid who hasn't even run the standard and made exactly 1 Oly team (he got in on a technicality) and won exactly nothing. There is a 1500M champ in the NCAA every year.
hahaha damn brother, why u crying??? he’s run 3:50 which is equivalent to a 3:33 and is clearly in better shape than that right now. he’s 19 years old and just won his national championship against the reigning olympic champ. ur clearly uneducated considering u think centro won in 2015 lol. cry some more u clown
peepeepoopoo wrote:
Occam wrote:
No way he's getting a 7 figure deal. NOT once chance. He runs a niche event in a niche sport. Most people don't care which Americans won the 1500 and many runners don't even know that Centro won the gold in 2015.
Now you have a kid who hasn't even run the standard and made exactly 1 Oly team (he got in on a technicality) and won exactly nothing. There is a 1500M champ in the NCAA every year.
hahaha damn brother, why u crying??? he’s run 3:50 which is equivalent to a 3:33 and is clearly in better shape than that right now. he’s 19 years old and just won his national championship against the reigning olympic champ. ur clearly uneducated considering u think centro won in 2015 lol. cry some more u clown
He is a very good runner. Only 20 years old. And he might do very well in the Olympics in Paris in 2024. But at this moment in time, he is just not fast enough at 1500, whether he can run 3.33 or 3.32.
Occam wrote:
No way he's getting a 7 figure deal. NOT once chance. He runs a niche event in a niche sport. Most people don't care which Americans won the 1500 and many runners don't even know that Centro won the gold in 2015.
Now you have a kid who hasn't even run the standard and made exactly 1 Oly team (he got in on a technicality) and won exactly nothing. There is a 1500M champ in the NCAA every year.
The reason no one knows Centro won gold in 2015 is because he didn't win gold in 2015. Hocker also did not get in on a technicality. Go take a bath.
JBaller33 wrote:
All of the above also applies to Yared Nuguse. He has elected to return for his 5th year at Notre Dame and says he’s more focused on applying to dental school then running professionally.
I'm not writing this to be a grammar Nazi.
I wasn't aware that Nuguse is applying to dental school. If "then," in your sentence above, is replaced with "than," the entire meaning of what you're saying is changed. The way that you wrote means that Nuguse is going to apply to dental school and then he's going to run professionally. I just want to clarify what it is that you meant. I assume that you meant he is focused on applying to dental school and not running professionally.
Again, I'm not trying to be a dick and am just looking for clarification.
Occam wrote:
No way he's getting a 7 figure deal. NOT once chance. He runs a niche event in a niche sport. Most people don't care which Americans won the 1500 and many runners don't even know that Centro won the gold in 2015.
Now you have a kid who hasn't even run the standard and made exactly 1 Oly team (he got in on a technicality) and won exactly nothing. There is a 1500M champ in the NCAA every year.
There is a near 100% chance he'd get a 7 figure deal. It didn't say 7 figures per year. If Justyn Knight is getting paid multiple hundreds of thousands of dollars per year, you can bet your ass this guy is going to get it as well.
Yes, there is a 1500m champ in the NCAA every year. What's your point? Every year, there isn't a 1500m champ that also wins USAs in the same year, beating the Olympic champ in the process. Only one other guy has won NCAAs and USAs in the 1500 in the last 20 years. His name? Matthew Centrowitz.
Take a look at the list the TFN has compiled of the men who have won NCAAs and USAs in the same year. They almost all are huge names.
1967 Jim Ryun Kansas
1969 Marty Liquori Villanova
1971 Marty Liquori Villanova
1976 Eamonn Coghlan Villanova
1981 Sydney Maree Villanova
1997 Seneca Lassiter Arkansas
2000 Gabe Jennings Stanford
2011 Matthew Centrowitz Oregon
2021 Cole Hocker Oregon
There also isn't a 1500 champ that runs 3:50 in the mile, 3:35 in the 1500 (off a slow opening), sub -13:20 in the 5000.
He also is the ONLY USA 1500 champ to have won the Footlocker XC title in HS. To find his combination of speed and endurance is pretty much unprecedented. Bob Kennedy is the only other Foot Locke champ I can think of who won a NCAA 1500 title.
The more I think about it, he's a generational talent. I could see the justification that a marketing exec could make t pay him 7 figures a year, particularly if they are paying someone like Drew Hunter 400k a year. Or some minor US pro who basically has little shot of ever making a US team 80k per year. Is he worth 10 of those?
Occam wrote:
No way he's getting a 7 figure deal. NOT once chance. He runs a niche event in a niche sport. Most people don't care which Americans won the 1500 and many runners don't even know that Centro won the gold in 2015.
Now you have a kid who hasn't even run the standard and made exactly 1 Oly team (he got in on a technicality) and won exactly nothing. There is a 1500M champ in the NCAA every year.
The world rankings are a part of the rules, not a "technicality". Without the world ranking system 1) The Olympic standard would've been a slower time and Hocker would've already had it or 2) Hocker would've chased the Olympic standard. Hocker did not jog a 3:50 at the Trials, he ran 3:35.28 and the Olympic standard is 3:35.
While you can argue that track and field is a niche sport, the 1500 is not a niche event. A niche event would be the hammer throw.
He knows his man bun will be slapped right off his head unless he is a wait staff, a "bud-tender" or a barista.
I'd hid out in college too
Did Centro turn pro before or after he won the bronze medal at the 2011 world championships?
SDSU Aztec wrote:
hocker fan wrote:
Of course he isn't getting 7 figures .. barely any runner gets that.
However, 1500m is not a niche event in running .. it's one of the top 3 most popular events in all of athletics (100m-1500m/mile-marathon)
He also didn't make the Olympics on a technicality. There is a clear qualifying route and he qualified...
Quality wise, his OT win was at least 3:32.
What does that mean? Is it like an adjustment for altitude? Is there some sort of formula to adjust the real time for "quality"?
Centro won the gold against a high quality field. Shouldn't his 3:50 be adjusted down to reflect that? Hocker is not a 3:32 runner until he runs that time in a race.
The same people who discredit Centro’s gold medal are the ones who are butthurt about Hocker getting a ton of praise.
You’ll see all these asterisks as to why MC won and now, the rally cry is “he didn’t even get the standard!” As if that means he stinks.
Not only did the guy get in via the rules (standard or ranking), but we’re talking about a 20 year old who ran 3:35 in back to back championship races, closing in :52 both times in addition to a 3:50 mile way back in the winter.
Considering we have finished 1st and then 2nd/4th at the last two games with guys that weren’t this fast at 20, why should we not be head over heels for Hocker?
Hocker is a talent but let's nut hump his leg too much. When you are a rich white guy who went to a private high school, its way easy to not think about money.
He has it backwards. You can go back to college when you're 60 but the window you have to be a successful professional Runner is much shorter.
utter nonsense wrote:
SDSU Aztec wrote:
Quality wise, his OT win was at least 3:32.
What does that mean? Is it like an adjustment for altitude? Is there some sort of formula to adjust the real time for "quality"?
Centro won the gold against a high quality field. Shouldn't his 3:50 be adjusted down to reflect that? Hocker is not a 3:32 runner until he runs that time in a race.
A sizable negative split means a faster time would have been run with an even pace. Centrowitz is capable of 3:32, Engels ran 3:33 this year and Hocker beat them both. Hocker's mile time also converts to 3:33.
Not running a time trial this Spring does not detract from his OT win.