Hocker vs Ingebrigtsen in Tokyo

Salvitore Stitchmo wrote:

subway eat fresh! wrote:

There's pretty much no way Jakob loses. Give it a few years, though, and it will be interesting

Okay how about this way...

59.xx @400m

2.01.xx @800m

2.56.xx @1200m

25.5 last 200m

Because Jakob doesn't beat Hocker in that type of race. So that was quite simple.

Yes he does omg Jakob is better than Hocker in any race if its quick he wins if its slow he wins Jakob is just better

Hocker needs to improve his tactics. He was badly out of position tonight when Centro made a move. He could recover against a bunch of 3:35 guys but when everyone can run 3:30 he will never make up the distance.

He is unexperimented.

Looks like this year was the first he took racing seriously.

Passant wrote:

He is unexperimented.

Looks like this year was the first he took racing seriously.

Dont lie he was a freaking foot locker champion in high school lol saying this was the first year he took seriously get out of here man

AP5000 wrote:

You can't reason with these delusional clowns. Jakob is on a completely different plane that hocker. The difference of 7 seconds in 1500 is a massive difference. I think Hocker will struggle to even make the final.

Yeah, I don't believe Alan Webb even got out of the prelims in 2004. It's just a different environment.

Really?

I’ve addressed this in another thread already.

Hocker is NOT making the team!

Engel gets it and his qual speaks for itself.

Lol, you think high school racing could it's as experience on the international stages you get out of here. He is absurdly inexperienced compared to who he'll be racing in the Olympics.

Could its = counts

DownUndah wrote:

Passant wrote:

He is unexperimented.

Looks like this year was the first he took racing seriously.

Dont lie he was a freaking foot locker champion in high school lol saying this was the first year he took seriously get out of here man

I dont look into School results.

I look here

He has almost the same age as the Moroccan Anass Essayi who run in a international level at least since 2017. And has better PB in the 1500m.

AP5000 wrote:

It's not even close. Jakob runs 3:28 and Hocker can't even run the standard.

What planet are you guys on?

No kidding. How are they even having a conversation about who wins between two guys where one has a PB that is SEVEN seconds faster than the other. WTF?

Hocker doesn't have Olympic standard , even now .

Sneezackley wrote:

AP5000 wrote:

It's not even close. Jakob runs 3:28 and Hocker can't even run the standard.

What planet are you guys on?

No kidding. How are they even having a conversation about who wins between two guys where one has a PB that is SEVEN seconds faster than the other. WTF?

Must have missed the race where Jakob ran 3.28 off 2.57 at 1200m, closing in 31 seconds for the final 300m.

For those saying "But Jakob would never let the race become that..." - have ya ever watched any major championship 1500m races? Ever? You think Morceli in 1996 wanted the race to play out that way? How about one a little more relevant - Timothy Cheruiyot didn't even make the Kenyan team after appearing unbeatable when he dictated the pace - except in the most important race of his year he magically didn't and didn't even make the team. Point being, pressure situations like selection trials and Olympic finals do funny things to athletes - even the ones that appear unflappable and unbeatable at times. If you think Jakob is any different you are dead wrong. He might front run 3.30 and own the field - he might not, we won't know until that Olympic final.

Jakob beast Cole in any race and so does Wightman and Kerr they are faster overall pb wise and can close quicker than him

lmfaoooo Hocker can’t even make the standard and u want to mention his name in the same sentence as Jakob. What a joke. The kid has a crazy kick but so will everyone else in the final from Kenya, Josh Kerr and Australia’s Oliver Hoare.

AP5000 wrote:

It's not even close. Jakob runs 3:28 and Hocker can't even run the standard.

What planet are you guys on?

Remnd me, are the Olympics a cushy Monnaco time trial?

What does Monaco have to do with Hocker being (at least) 7 seconds slower than Jakob?

As I mentioned elsewhere, 421 men have run the 1500 faster than Hocker.

Jakob is 8th ALL TIME. Please try and use data every now and then for making sound arguments.

AP5000 wrote:

As I mentioned elsewhere, 421 men have run the 1500 faster than Hocker.

Jakob is 8th ALL TIME. Please try and use data every now and then for making sound arguments.

It's unfortunate that COVID years and the new shoes spoiled everything.

Africans are chassed by haters and doping anti-apologist who are growing great in this forums.

(never seen in my life a forum with this numbers of haters).

neither of them will win gold,but jakob is quicker.