CopperRunner wrote:
bhuhgg wrote:
He won’t get out of the first round. You Oregon jock sniffers are insane
He just won the US title, against the reigning gold medalist. Tf you on about?
Doesn’t even have the Olympic standard. Has to get in on a technicality
Sorry can someone explain how they decide the team and why it's not the top 3 in the Trials? I understand that he hasn't gotten the standard yet, but why is that relevant here?
hobbyjogger18 wrote:
Hocker won, had a devastating kick but he's not going to be that fresh.
It's not that hard to freshen up in four weeks like he's been racing for a while but he's got time, he'll be there.
what then wrote:
FastTuohy wrote:
And he has to avoid getting into the bad positions. Got away with it today (again).
That's actually one of Hockers best strengths. He can turn almost any position into a good position. With that short stride and the way he can maneuver, he can go from a bad position to a good position really quickly. I think he actually ran the race great and it's probably better for him to get on the rail like that, all he needs is a little opening and he is home free
As a Robby Andrews fan I can't agree with this. He can't do this in tokyo
OP needs a ban out of respect for the new king of American Mid-D
another delusional Engels hater that joined the bandwagon.
Go Engels or Go Home!
letsrunaccount#3 wrote:
Sorry can someone explain how they decide the team and why it's not the top 3 in the Trials? I understand that he hasn't gotten the standard yet, but why is that relevant here?
Top 3 at the trials are choosen if they are eligble e.g standard or world ranking if someone in the top three isnt eligble they work their way down the results till someone is, only thing is the world rankings arent finalised for another week so Hocker isnt 100% on the team till then although he pretty much is as he will now be in the world rankings quota
westsouthrunner wrote:
what then wrote:
That's actually one of Hockers best strengths. He can turn almost any position into a good position. With that short stride and the way he can maneuver, he can go from a bad position to a good position really quickly. I think he actually ran the race great and it's probably better for him to get on the rail like that, all he needs is a little opening and he is home free
As a Robby Andrews fan I can't agree with this. He can't do this in tokyo
He needs to work on his tactics. NCAA's and Olympic trials is competitive but the world stage is a whole different beast. No room for error. Something Engels knew and forgot during that race. Still cannot believe he let himself get boxed and after going to the front decided to sit inside and get caught.
bhuhgg wrote:
CopperRunner wrote:
He just won the US title, against the reigning gold medalist. Tf you on about?
Doesn’t even have the Olympic standard. Has to get in on a technicality
The whole reason they have this technicality was because they figured the standards were so tough they needed a second way of entry. If the standards didn’t have this alternate way baked in, and that’s why they were able to lower them so much, then he would have qualified either here or earlier
letsrunaccount#3 wrote:
Sorry can someone explain how they decide the team and why it's not the top 3 in the Trials? I understand that he hasn't gotten the standard yet, but why is that relevant here?
A few years ago there was a swimmer from equatorial guinea who (I'm exaggerating a little) almost drowned at the Olympics, he was in like a 2 minute race and swam 3 minutes if I recall correctly.
To make sure something like this doesn't happen, athletes must have the olympic standard time (3:35) or be in the top 40?? (Someone correct me if I'm wrong on that) in the world rankings. This means that smaller countries can't send three runners if they don't have three runners who are Olympic-caliber.
Because the US (usually) has at least 3 people under the olympic standard, we have a Trials meet where you must finish in the top three to qualify for the olympics. However, this sometimes creates the interesting dynamic we have now, where somebody in the top 3 doesn't have the standard and is thus on the bubble and has to rely on world rankings to get in (and from what I'm hearing, Hocker's world ranking should be high enough that he will qualify this way).
However, if the athlete who finishes in the top 3 doesn't qualify on world ranking or have the standard, their spot goes to the next guy on the list who does qualify on world ranking / have the olympic standard. In this case, that person is Engels, and that's the situation that they're in here.
The US Olympic trials decide the people on the US’s delegation to Tokyo. It doesn’t matter if they get onto the delegation because they still have to meet the Tokyo standard to be even allowed into the olympics. If some miracle happens and cole gets a pass it will be the biggest controversy this event has ever seen. Engels is the rightful man for that 3rd ticket and the people here are just haters and fraudsters.
truthman432 wrote:
The US Olympic trials decide the people on the US’s delegation to Tokyo. It doesn’t matter if they get onto the delegation because they still have to meet the Tokyo standard to be even allowed into the olympics. If some miracle happens and cole gets a pass it will be the biggest controversy this event has ever seen. Engels is the rightful man for that 3rd ticket and the people here are just haters and fraudsters.
Your first sentence is correct, and then not so much. Everything is basically designed now so that our Trials take our Top 3 except in a very rate circumstance.
All the Engels stans here were commissioned to post by Donald John Trump.
Hocker didn’t keep Engels off the team.
Engels kept Engels off the team.
I will miss Engels, but he was not clutch.
get out wrote:
Hocker didn’t keep Engels off the team.
Engels kept Engels off the team.
I will miss Engels, but he was not clutch.
Agreed.
Engel's performance may be one of the biggest chokes in track and field at least in recent memory.
U.S. Champion and doesn't have the qualifying standard. What does that say about middle distance running in the United States. Also the high school 1500 record is faster than the collegiate record.
get out wrote:
Hocker didn’t keep Engels off the team.
Engels kept Engels off the team.
I will miss Engels, but he was not clutch.
“Not the clutch”?! This guy would have EASILY swept the field and made the team if everyone wasn’t colluding against him. I guess the entire field likes the motto of “if you can beat him just ruin his race entirely”. They were like a pack of rabid dogs keeping him caged in. Nothing can be caged in forever and he will easily be allowed on this team. Can’t wait to see you Engels!
truthman432 wrote:
get out wrote:
Hocker didn’t keep Engels off the team.
Engels kept Engels off the team.
I will miss Engels, but he was not clutch.
“Not the clutch”?! This guy would have EASILY swept the field and made the team if everyone wasn’t colluding against him. I guess the entire field likes the motto of “if you can beat him just ruin his race entirely”. They were like a pack of rabid dogs keeping him caged in. Nothing can be caged in forever and he will easily be allowed on this team. Can’t wait to see you Engels!
The same rabid dogs kept Hocker caged in for quite a while too.
truthman432 wrote:
The US Olympic trials decide the people on the US’s delegation to Tokyo. It doesn’t matter if they get onto the delegation because they still have to meet the Tokyo standard to be even allowed into the olympics. If some miracle happens and cole gets a pass it will be the biggest controversy this event has ever seen. Engels is the rightful man for that 3rd ticket and the people here are just haters and fraudsters.
No Engels is not the rightful man as Cole beat him in this race and Cole will make it in on World Rankings its not some free pass IAAF made the rankings not USATF and no ones choosing Cole over Engels its automated by the results of this race
Questionable1 wrote:
U.S. Champion and doesn't have the qualifying standard. What does that say about middle distance running in the United States. Also the high school 1500 record is faster than the collegiate record.
It says that the best middle distance runner in the United States hasn't ever. in. his. life. been in a race where somebody's run the olympic standard.
No big deal.
Remember, the best middle distance runner in the United States has also run 3:50 indoors.