Athing MU turns PRO

mu can milk wrote:

That isn't really an answer. I don't want to do 2 events because it is a mental thing. Saying you don't want to is a decision coming from your brain. We want to know why you made such a silly decision. It would have been worth a lot more to a sponsor to have you vying for 2 golds.

A few years ago (2017 I think) Clayton Murphy tried to double in the 800 and 1500 and missed both teams. She is practically a lock for either the 400 or 800 team and will compete for a medal...unless the misses the team trying to do to much (either physically or mentally). What is worth more to a sponsor - a global medalist or a NCAA record holder who failed to make the Olympic team?

I would love to see her go for both, but she is only a year out of HS and the next Olympics is (in this case) only three years away.

1000% agree. Injuries and motivational factors aside she has the potential to run some truly incredible times over the coming decade or so. I'm super excited to see what she can do in Tokyo when she is pushed by the most elite competition, rather than just at the College level.

ScottEvil wrote:

VIPAM wrote:

Athing MU turned pro today, watch her break the women's 800m AR 1:55.51 this year. Hopefully she continue to run for many years and destroy our memory of Pamela Jelimo

Did we ever find out what Pamela Jelimo's story was? She came on the scene like a WR contender and then just as quickly disappeared. Popped for PEDs and then quietly retired perhaps?

I'll long remember the interview she and her husband gave with the Guardian [1] because so many things about it were strange.

Though honestly OP I am wondering if you meant to type Caster Semenya

[1]

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2009/jul/26/pamela-jelimo-athletics-kenya

No, Pamela Jelimo wasn't on performance enhancing drugs. Pamela Jelimo is believed to be DSD, intersex, (female on the outside but with testes and male chromosomes on the inside) whatever you want to call that condition.

Jelimo ran her first 800 race when she was 18 years old. She had only had a year of 400 meter training at that point but she ran her first 800 in a very fast 2:01.02.

Just 6 weeks later she had dropped all the way down to a completely ridiculous 1:54.99 !!!

100% females simply don't run 1:54 as a teenager with very little training. And they definitely don't go from 2:01 to 1:54 in just 6 weeks.

Even with large amounts of drugs, years of very hard work, and intensive state sponsored training programs, the Eastern European women from the 1980s couldn't do that as teenagers. In fact, only 2 Eastern European women in the 1980s ever ran faster than Jelimo's PB of 1:54.01, and they were fully mature women who had each trained for more than a decade to do that.

The only other teenager in history to drop their 800 time almost as fast as Jelimo? Caster Semenya. But even Semenya took 6 months to go from 2:00.58 to 1:55.45.

Compared to Semenya, Jelimo improved her 800 time 2 seconds more, in 4 months less. Wow!

the 155 is a given for Mu, now. at least

we see that 154 only has 7 women all time

the 153 is very dooable later on.

152? dooable too with a sub 4 min 1500.

that's as far as we can speculate.

Murphy may have learned his lesson. Rather than just assume he'd move up to 1500, you have to log the miles for that, and now we're pushing the envelope. injury, fatigue.

True, it looked like you need the 141 to win OG, and with 47 400 speed, you got a shot at gold in the 1500.

But there is no point in going for the 1500, if you can't get to the bell, and use that speed.

And to get that aerobic base, well, maybe you can't do it.

Like Wheating, what if he went down? and got better at the 400?

and be a 142 low 800 guy?

that gets metals.

i mean, what if your body isn't made for too much distance training?

i mean, if i had the 47, and my body did not handle lots of aerobic work,

you have to call it a day, instead of bang your head against a brick wall.

hindsight is 50/50

I think probably because in 400 there is Naser and Shaunae Miller. But Semenya is already banned for 800.

I'm reading through the threads and it's shocking to see how ignorant, trusting, etc. many are when it comes to obvious drug cheats. They are mostly very easy to pick out and many.

Or, when it comes to who are men like Jelimo and Semenya.

Does anybody know who she is going to sign with for her professional contract?

I definitely expect her to break the American records for the 400m and 800m in the next 2-3 years.

JohnR wrote:

Athing Mu answered that question a few days ago and she basically said that it was a mental thing. For her first Olympic Trials she just wanted to focus on one race.

It wasn't about if she physically could have doubled. I'm sure she could have. She just didn't want to.

Fair enough. I can't argue with that, thanks for the answer. Am hoping/assuming that she will be on the 4x400 squad.

That was my question, can she be on the 4x400 Olympic Squad? How do you keep the fastest woman off the finals squad?

First, she has to make the team. Second, is there an example of someone who didn't run the primary distance of a relay being included on a finals squad before? Maybe Alyson Felix before?

U.S. will probably win anyway. What's going with all these Baharain 400m runners? They could put together a squad but are some suspended?

Since Athing MU has her origin from Sudan here are the results of the 800m of Arab Championship of Athletics that ended a few days ago:

As you can see, a Sudanese ranked two here with a body morphology that suit these distances:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JF_cf2OqBrM

Does she have to make the 800 team to be selected for 4x4 pool? The best USA 4x4 team may only have 1 open 400 runner with the 2 400Hurdlers and Mu on it.

Bettingfool wrote:

Does she have to make the 800 team to be selected for 4x4 pool? The best USA 4x4 team may only have 1 open 400 runner with the 2 400Hurdlers and Mu on it.

I don't even know the rules for relays, but Dalilah hasn't broken 50 in the open 400. I would have Jonathas, Syd Mc, Mu, Hayes.....in that order.

Nike apparently offered 10 yr / 15 million

Don't forget, they are having a 'Mixed 4x400' relay as well this year. So that puts a strain on relay pools as well.

A. Moran wrote:

That was my question, can she be on the 4x400 Olympic Squad? How do you keep the fastest woman off the finals squad?

First, she has to make the team. Second, is there an example of someone who didn't run the primary distance of a relay being included on a finals squad before? Maybe Alyson Felix before?

In the last world champs the 400m hurdlers (McLaughlin and Mohammed) both ran in the 4x400 and dominated so if Mu makes the team in any event she could be used on a relay.

WeiL614 wrote:

I think probably because in 400 there is Naser and Shaunae Miller. But Semenya is already banned for 800.

Miller-Uibo is only running the 200M. Naser, the cheat, is awaiting a ruling from CAS. I was hoping that CAS would ban her before the Olympics. We'll see.

Wonder which Pro group she'll join.