Nandrolone levels

Guilty and Still Lying wrote:

Raysism wrote:

I'm an attorney, and I can promise you that the ethical and actual obligation to tell the truth far outweighs the ethical obligation to defend your client.

If you are an attorney, you are lying right now, at least with regards to an attorney's obligations outside of a court room. Your ethical obligation to a client outweighs the obligation to tell the truth to the public, and it's not even close.

No lawyer has an ethical obligation to lie for a client. That’s hogwash.

Raysism wrote:

I'm an attorney, and I can promise you that the ethical and actual obligation to tell the truth far outweighs the ethical obligation to defend your client.

Hahahaahaha.

"Your honor, my client wishes to plead not guilty. I think I need to go on the record as knowing that she is guilty, however."

300 grams = about 10.5 ounces. That's a whole lot of meat. That's the equivalent of three Qdoba burritos.

Free_the_thigh wrote:

No lawyer has an ethical obligation to lie for a client. That’s hogwash.

That is, of course, not what I said. A lawyer is under no obligation to not lie to the public. Also, if you want to continue to work for Nike, you follow the company line regarding their athletes.

Free_the_thigh wrote:

Guilty and Still Lying wrote:

If you are an attorney, you are lying right now, at least with regards to an attorney's obligations outside of a court room. Your ethical obligation to a client outweighs the obligation to tell the truth to the public, and it's not even close.

No lawyer has an ethical obligation to lie for a client. That’s hogwash.

Just an offal excuse.

"I have prepared a short statement for the media: I recently found a scholarly article that seems to support my client's alibi. As a lawyer who is obligated above all else to tell the truth, however, I would also like to share the vast body of evidence that demonstrates how farfetched her story really is."

I have eaten that much carnitas. Shes a pro athlete. I think she could do it. But I couldnt personally do that much organ meat. Does it have to be organ meat?

What a funny world. Most athletes at the top of any sport dope, but there seems to be no way to know who. We just try to keep it to low levels I guess. But then you still get your Chris Froomes, your Shelly Anne Fraiser- Prices. Eye popping performances and physiques, no positive tests.

Occam's razor -- which is more likely:

1. She got busted for taking a PED that was exactly the PED she was already suspected of taking

2. She ate some janky road-side Mexican food that was 'tainted' with a high enough level to get digested and still show up at unallowable levels?

I doubt she even eats pork

If the attorney cited a paper that supposedly supported his/her position, then it would seem you don't have to believe them, do you? You could just read the paper.

For a grown man. How many grams/ounces needed to cause the same effect in an elite female 1500 m runner?

jackamo wrote:

Occam's razor -- which is more likely:

1. She got busted for taking a PED that was exactly the PED she was already suspected of taking

2. She ate some janky road-side Mexican food that was 'tainted' with a high enough level to get digested and still show up at unallowable levels?

I doubt she even eats pork

I need to re-read the statements, but I don’t think she or her lawyers said she ate the pork, just that she ate a burrito from a food truck that serves that type of meat.

jackamo wrote:

Occam's razor -- which is more likely:

1. She got busted for taking a PED that was exactly the PED she was already suspected of taking

2. She ate some janky road-side Mexican food that was 'tainted' with a high enough level to get digested and still show up at unallowable levels?

I doubt she even eats pork

I feel the opposite, I guess.

1. She got busted for taking a PED that isn't as effective for her events as others out there. There's no indication she had the PED in her body beforehand which just doesn't make sense.

2. She could've easily eaten chorizo from a janky food truck that was contaminated.

To me, #2 seems more believable than #1.

Dwightarm wrote:

jackamo wrote:

Occam's razor -- which is more likely:

1. She got busted for taking a PED that was exactly the PED she was already suspected of taking

2. She ate some janky road-side Mexican food that was 'tainted' with a high enough level to get digested and still show up at unallowable levels?

I doubt she even eats pork

I feel the opposite, I guess.

1. She got busted for taking a PED that isn't as effective for her events as others out there. There's no indication she had the PED in her body beforehand which just doesn't make sense.

2. She could've easily eaten chorizo from a janky food truck that was contaminated.

To me, #2 seems more believable than #1.

You think she's innocent because she was busted for a drug that is more popular among bodybuilders and sprinters than distance runners -- even if it works great for 1500 meter runners?

big apple dan wrote:

I have eaten that much carnitas. Shes a pro athlete. I think she could do it. But I couldnt personally do that much organ meat. Does it have to be organ meat?

No. The latest WADA guidance document uses the word "edible parts" rather than "offal."

However, that document also says they will only consider cases from athletes who ate the meat of "noncastrated male pigs." As has been pointed out before, the edible parts of noncastrated male pigs can taste so bad that it is seldom, if ever, sold for human consumption. So a better question might be whether it is plausible that meat from an uncastrated pig was sold at this food truck.

You can read the WADA guidance here:

LRs on the dl googling how they can buy some deca-durabolin

Tastes Like Chicken wrote:

So a better question might be whether it is plausible that meat from an uncastrated pig was sold at this food truck.

This seems incredibly unlikely. I bet they could not provide any evidence of this to the WADA

"We concluded that the most likely explanation was a burrito purchased and consumed approximately 10 hours before that drug test from an authentic Mexican food truck that serves pig offal near my house in Beaverton, Oregon"

I think youre making a distinction without a difference here. She is saying she consumed food from said truck that apparently she "knows" serves Offal.

Who has even confirmed that this place serves said organ meat that is 'widely known' to be contaminated?

PED that 'doesnt help' her event -- you're joking right?

And 'there's no indication this PED was in her body before hand' -- yeah, it's called micro dosing.

See TDF, Lance Armstrong.

By your reasoning, too, we shouldnt be concerned about thyroid meds either because, after all, they arent primarily helping your performance in your said distance event like EPO, just your ability to recover/lose weight quickly/handle higher and higher trainin loads.