nikeman wrote:
When was the last time any of these athletes had an out of competition drug test? This whole meet is ridiculous.
Lol I remember you saying that Rupp would win the USOT 10000m in the thread going into the Portland race. You don't know anything.
Almost every single distance event at the Olympics is going to be insane
Men's 10000m Barega 26:49 then Kejelcha and Aregawi.
THOUGHTSLEADER wrote:
The Stache wrote:
A 14:18 would be a top-10 time for 5000m. How the hell is that possible?
The shoes are no doubt having an impact. The 5,000 all-time list has also been historically weak. See three Ethiopians at 14:15 or faster today with Gidey not even in the field, and Tsegay running it somewhat crazily.
The old 5k record was so"weak" that Ayana, Genzebe, Obiri and Hassan could not beat it. Anon comes Gidey who could never win a DL meet in 2017-19 against Hassan etc. and destroys the 5k with wavelights by 5 sec. and now the 10k, running the second half faster than her PB from 2018/19?!?!?!
Sure, Gidey was still very young (but look at Tsegay struggling to run 14:46 only LAST FALL, now 33! seconds faster with crazy splits). There has been some kind of game changer (lights, shoes, doping, whatever), even after 2019, otherwise this is inexplicable.
xczvzxcv wrote:
posting results from the other races like a clueless n00b.
Bro, there is a thread for all of those. This is the thread about the crazy new WR
https://youtu.be/xePp4c-T-LYThe Stache wrote:
A 14:18 would be a top-10 time for 5000m. How the hell is that possible?
I loved this video from a couple months ago that puts Gidey's Talent into perspective. She is one the biggest all time talents to come out of our sport.
Her 44:20 15k WR indicated 13:42(5000m)/28:44(10000m) fitness
(she ran her last 10k in this race in 29:13) On the world performance scaling that's 1319pts
Her 14:06 5000m WR was scored 1269pts
This 10000m WR is worth 1303pts which indicates 13:50 5000m shape
We shall soon see sub 14 and sub 29 for women! So exciting to be alive.
THOUGHTSLEADER wrote:
10,000m is long enough for the shoes to have a strong, strong effect. Even with that being the case, Hassan and Gidey are two all-timers. Hassan has the greatest range in history possibly, and Gidey has the smoothest, most efficient stride I have may have ever seen on the women's side of thing.
+1. Absolutely, the right words to sum up.
For the doubters, please realize that these girls are being tested right, left and center in Europe and elsewhere.
Hassan v Gidey, both are supremely talented but I think Gidey has a slight edge in pure talent, style, running economy, but in a competitive situation I think Hassan might win (tactical race) because of a better kick. Fascinating stuff. Two monsters, pretty ones.
Just according to expectations . Doesn`t surprise me at all. Remember the 15 k road race Gidey did in November 2019 and 44:20 with a very fast finish? Won`t take long before the first sub 14 min and sub 29 min will happen.
Sprintgeezer wrote:
The Stache wrote:
A 14:18 would be a top-10 time for 5000m. How the hell is that possible?
Cue Armstronglivs in 3.....2.....1.....
The doping patrol may be a step behind but what kind of gender testing is going on? Or is it? Is Gidey a woman?
She said my EPO is better than your EPO.
This just means that 5000m WR is soft in the new super shoes era.
Sub-28 and sub-14 next year. Bank on it. It's happening.
EPO
another perspective wrote:
14:18 2nd 5k???
That's absolutely ridiculous. The W5000 was only won in 14:13...
Could've gone sub 29 if she didn't have to overtake 3 backmarkers on the final bend.
Wasn’t even breathing hard at the finish. Nothing to see here. Just bread and water.
She didn’t break any record - her shoes did LOL 😂 That’s what many people on this site believe with zero evidence to demonstrate that ludicrous claim.
Gazellie wrote:
The Stache wrote:
A 14:18 would be a top-10 time for 5000m. How the hell is that possible?
Her 44:20 15k WR indicated 13:42(5000m)/28:44(10000m) fitness
I honestly just dismissed that 44:20 as short or doped or mistimed. It just seemed utterly impossible.
Yet, here we are. Apparently it was real.
Lol, she ran the second half in a time faster than the American record for 5k. Good luck to anyone from BTC heading to the Olympics this summer, get some nice souvenirs while you're there
BekeleKip wrote:
Sub-28 and sub-14 next year. Bank on it. It's happening.
I'll bet against you on the sub-28.
https://i.ibb.co/mN4S6RJ/03.jpgSTEVE THE ADDICT^^^^^^""""-""""-'-"--^' wrote:
EPO
Finally womens distance running is approaching the level it should be.
All this 1:59, 4:08, 15:00 and 31:00 running is just miserable and women that run these times are amateurs.
