Will Sara Hall make the 10K team?

roller coaster wrote:

kmaclam wrote:

This makes a lot of sense other than why wouldn't (don't) those in the 2nd heat, armed with the knowledge of how fast Heat 1 went, run just under that pace?? It seems as if in these situations, those in subsequent heats have been sequestered in sound proof rooms under the stadium, blindfolded, with absolutely zero knowledge of how fast they need to run. Weird.

Because in the fast heat if you try to push the pace you have to worry about others drafting off you and outkicking you. That's exactly what happened at the 2019 USA indoor championship 2 mile. A bunch of runners could have beaten Drew Hunter's slow heat time, but nobody wanted to be the sacrificial lamb for the rest of the field.

Nonetheless, you still will have some faster women in the 2nd heat that still do not have the OTQ (31:25). It behooves those women to assure at least that pace, or they have no chance of going to Tokyo.

Jack Daniels Calculator wrote:

Nonetheless, you still will have some faster women in the 2nd heat that still do not have the OTQ (31:25). It behooves those women to assure at least that pace, or they have no chance of going to Tokyo.

Of course, "by 2nd heat", I mean the 2nd heat to be run, which is the faster of the two heats.

Probably not. Once runners move up to the marathon, moving down again is a desperation move and pretty much always unsuccessful. Even if Hall had not moved to the marathon her track record in high-pressure races is not good.

Don't think she makes the team at 10000 but the Faster Training will get her a low 67 Breaking Huddles 67:25 American Record possibly high 66 Half Marathon Beating Gouchers Slightly Downhill 66:57 Time, once the Races start again regularly, she was entered in the RAK Half Marathon last year, so she wanted a fast time, may even help her Break Kastor's American Record in the Marathon.

douglas burke wrote:

Don't think she makes the team at 10000 but the Faster Training will get her a low 67 Breaking Huddles 67:25 American Record possibly high 66 Half Marathon Beating Gouchers Slightly Downhill 66:57 Time, once the Races start again regularly, she was entered in the RAK Half Marathon last year, so she wanted a fast time, may even help her Break Kastor's American Record in the Marathon.

Interesting. This could be one of the first ARs to go with the new shoes.

Les wrote:

Probably not. Once runners move up to the marathon, moving down again is a desperation move and pretty much always unsuccessful. Even if Hall had not moved to the marathon her track record in high-pressure races is not good.

Didn't Ritz or someone of his generation move down from marathon and then qualify in the 10,000? Or Deena Drossin or someone.

No, she's not as talented as the top women vying for the top three spots, and she gets mental way too often at important meets.

She has never preformed in a race that matters. So no.

TMADDDHASFNE wrote:

I say yes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t2LsxUKlfuw

She’s lookin fit! Training in Gunnisson, home of D2 Powerhouse Western State!

She's fitter than she's ever been and focusing on that speed, which she'll need that last mile. I think she will, but it will be CLOSE.

MatthewXCountry wrote:

John Wesley Harding wrote:

I think she has the guts to set the pace herself. It’s a matter of whether she can burn enough women off the pace before the last 400. Her 31:21 3 weeks ago was pretty encouraging. A lot depends on who enters the 10k (Cranny, Schweizer, Sisson specifically). If none of them compete, she’ll make the team. If two or more of them compete, she will not.

My opinion is that it's too bad she's in the fast heat. Her best shot was <31:10 in the slow heat, and then the fast heat not going out hard enough. There are some pretty good women in the slow heat, D'Amato, Frazier, etc. If they all agreed to hit 75/lap and close faster in the last mile - that would put a lot of pressure on the fast heat.

WTF are you talking about, D'Amato is a non-factor. Hall can't beat Schneider, Sisson, Cranny, Schweizer, Rogers, Monson, Kurgat or even Taylor. They all would dust her in a fast race or a slow strategic race.

Other than Schweizer and Cranny (who might not run it), I think anyone is beatable on the right day, but the odds are still against Sara. I could see her finishing 3rd or 20th.

I hope so... but, no.

Where did this training sessions channel come from? I saw that video in my recommended yesterday and was shocked at the details provided, better than any of Flotrack or Milesplit’s Workout Wednesdays that I’ve watched (and the main Sweat Elite channel content to boot)

Thin air phys wrote:

What are they doing in Colorado? Are Flagstaff trails getting too crowded?

Training with Emma Coburn at 7,771 feet, that's what. It's only about 25 miles away from Coburn's hometown of Crested Butte at 8,900 feet.

"So much gratitude to #TeamBoss for the hospitality (and butt kickings!) while we overlapped in CB!

As someone that benefited from being a part of an unbranded group like this one early in my career, it’s been awesome to see this group grow and thrive- a true testament to @emmacoburn & @joebosshard as people and leaders.

Death by Emma & Joe has been the name of the game the last 6 weeks, here for all of it and loved every minute. Excited to watch these gals shine in Eugene"

https://www.instagram.com/p/CPyo7MZhw-K/

It's a good sign for her if she's hanging in workouts with Emma, but I agree that she has an outside shot of making the team. I've been a fan since our high school days, and she just hasn't been one to kick people down at the end of a race since her duels with Anita Siraki. Her USA XC win over Huddle is an exception, though. I will certainly be rooting for her. It would be an amazing story.

She ran Emmas track workout and then went and ran an eight mile tempo...

TMADDDHASFNE wrote:

I say yes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t2LsxUKlfuw

Cool video.