bigmig19 wrote:
There was a good/great quote from Jenny Simpson I believe about these missed test people. She has no tolerance for them at all, she points out first hand how easy it is to make the tests. I like her approach to these numbskulls. She got cheated out of Gold medal from one of these dirt bags.
I'll try to find it.
“If you miss three tests, it’s either because you’re cheating or because you’re an idiot.”
Is that the one?
C/M Runner wrote:
bigmig19 wrote:
There was a good/great quote from Jenny Simpson I believe about these missed test people. She has no tolerance for them at all, she points out first hand how easy it is to make the tests. I like her approach to these numbskulls. She got cheated out of Gold medal from one of these dirt bags.
I'll try to find it.
“If you miss three tests, it’s either because you’re cheating or because you’re an idiot.”
Is that the one?
Yes sir, thats the one. Concise as I recall. Love me some JS.
It’s amazing in all the different sports how many athletes that covid has either helped or hurt.
For Coleman he was definitely going to be the 100m 2020 olympic champ. For Brommel now he has a shot to make the team.
Covid giveth and covid taketh away.
Not to excuse Coleman, but the Simpson account (from LRC article in '19) of her experience of the whereabouts system shows how varied the system is applied. In the Coleman case, the testers deliberately did not call Coleman, something they later determined would've been a reasonable expectation. Simpson recounted a story in which, "As a general rule, Simpson updates her whereabouts form whenever she is traveling somewhere over an hour from her house. But on this night, she forgot. The following morning, the testers — for her, it’s usually one man and one woman — showed up at her house in Boulder." She wasn't there and the testers called her and she said she was in CO Springs and then they DROVE to Denver to meet her and accommodate her without any repercussions.
Looking like we might not have an Olympics for him to star in.
Thrilled to see only 18 months the sport needs all the stars it can get.
Hopefully he has figured out he must play along with how things are done in his business. Ignorance won't work.
That's yet another example of USADA breaking the rules. Sickening.
Good. He is a cheap. He should be stripped of his Doha gold and it be given to the guy who placed 3rd.
rojo wrote:
Despite his fathers rant against me, I was hoping he'd be cleared for the Olympics.
What I want in the anti-doping process is consistency. I'm all for lifetime bans for proven PED usage but if we are going to do stuff like that then the testers and authorities have to be held to incredibly high standards.
Much like the police, the anti-dopers have a huge responsibility and need to be held to very high standards and need to also be filming all interactions.
But if they call one time, they need to call all the time. I don't like how they purposely didn't call Coleman this time to basically try to catch him in a missed test. If you call once, call all the time.
Today's ruling actually pisses me off (Full disclosure, I haven't had time to read it as my son is home sick). So they are saying, "Hey we made some sort of mistake so we are reducing his ban." Are you kidding me? Nope. Not if it causes a guy to miss the Olympics. Do they realize how big of a deal the Olympics are? They should either be keeping it for the full period or lifting it entirely. If we are expecting athletes to be perfect and never eat the wrong thing at a restaurant, then we must expect the same of the anti-doping authorities.
That being said, Coleman was idiotic. He's the world's fastest man. He nearly got banned a few months ago but got off on a technicality and he decided to go to Chipotle during his window. The fact that his management team allowed that is the definition of amateur hour. They should have paid someone $100 an hour to watch him during that one hour every day.
Why if you require the highest standards from the drug controllers why will you not support Paul Edwards?
pupil3142 wrote:
Lanced to the gills wrote:
So basically Kenya is tougher on dopers than the USA these days? If he was Kenyan he would never represent his country again.
that is because coleman hasnt done drugs but the kenyans do.
this isnt difficult.
Sure Jan.
dullard wrote:
pupil3142 wrote:
that is because coleman hasnt done drugs but the kenyans do.
this isnt difficult.
Sure Jan.
sorry, i thought the /sarc switch really wasnt necessary
But if they call one time, they need to call all the time. I don't like how they purposely didn't call Coleman this time to basically try to catch him in a missed test.
If this is true Coleman can sue very successfully. I would.
That said, Coleman's behavior indicates guilty as sin.
None the less, the testers can't be cheating along with the criminals.
WADA is a mafia seeking to control the sports testing business, and ruthlessly suppress the competition.
WADA at the end of the day, has criminal intent at the top and downward.
different folks wrote:
Not to excuse Coleman, but the Simpson account (from LRC article in '19) of her experience of the whereabouts system shows how varied the system is applied. In the Coleman case, the testers deliberately did not call Coleman, something they later determined would've been a reasonable expectation. Simpson recounted a story in which, "As a general rule, Simpson updates her whereabouts form whenever she is traveling somewhere over an hour from her house. But on this night, she forgot. The following morning, the testers — for her, it’s usually one man and one woman — showed up at her house in Boulder." She wasn't there and the testers called her and she said she was in CO Springs and then they DROVE to Denver to meet her and accommodate her without any repercussions.
Pretend they didn’t call her. It doesn’t make a difference, because it only happened once. The hand wringing over whether or not they should have called obscures the fact that he’s missed multiple tests (4?) and straight up lied about his whereabouts. The dude is obviously on something, which was already likely from the fact that he’s run 9.76
bigmig19 wrote:
There was a good/great quote from Jenny Simpson I believe about these missed test people. She has no tolerance for them at all, she points out first hand how easy it is to make the tests. I like her approach to these numbskulls. She got cheated out of Gold medal from one of these dirt bags.
I'll try to find it.
I don't have sympathy for them either. But we need to have a system that is 100% transparent and 100% followed in the same fashion every time. If that was the case, I"d be for a lifetime ban for 3 missed tests.
You don't say, "Hey it was reasonable to expect a phone call but we're banning you from the Olympics." It's like driving 73 in a 65. If you do it every day and don't get pulled over, it's a joke if one day they decide to put you in jail for it.
PS. I don't know the Paul Edwards case. I know there is a big thread on him. If you want to talk to me about hit, call me 844-538-7786 ext 3.
PPS. We have an article about it where I elaborate on my anger on them not doing the same thing every time.
https://www.letsrun.com/news/2021/04/the-worlds-fastest-man-wont-be-at-the-olympics/Whatley wrote:
Looking like we might not have an Olympics for him to star in.
Thrilled to see only 18 months the sport needs all the stars it can get.
Hopefully he has figured out he must play along with how things are done in his business. Ignorance won't work.
What in the world are you talking about? The Olympics are happening. Smh
rojo wrote:
bigmig19 wrote:
There was a good/great quote from Jenny Simpson I believe about these missed test people. She has no tolerance for them at all, she points out first hand how easy it is to make the tests. I like her approach to these numbskulls. She got cheated out of Gold medal from one of these dirt bags.
I'll try to find it.
I don't have sympathy for them either. But we need to have a system that is 100% transparent and 100% followed in the same fashion every time. If that was the case, I"d be for a lifetime ban for 3 missed tests.
You don't say, "Hey it was reasonable to expect a phone call but we're banning you from the Olympics." It's like driving 73 in a 65. If you do it every day and don't get pulled over, it's a joke if one day they decide to put you in jail for it.
PS. I don't know the Paul Edwards case. I know there is a big thread on him. If you want to talk to me about hit, call me 844-538-7786 ext 3.
PPS. We have an article about it where I elaborate on my anger on them not doing the same thing every time.
https://www.letsrun.com/news/2021/04/the-worlds-fastest-man-wont-be-at-the-olympics/
yep
you have to keep everyone accountable,
athletes and wada
rojo wrote:
bigmig19 wrote:
There was a good/great quote from Jenny Simpson I believe about these missed test people. She has no tolerance for them at all, she points out first hand how easy it is to make the tests. I like her approach to these numbskulls. She got cheated out of Gold medal from one of these dirt bags.
I'll try to find it.
I don't have sympathy for them either. But we need to have a system that is 100% transparent and 100% followed in the same fashion every time. If that was the case, I"d be for a lifetime ban for 3 missed tests.
You don't say, "Hey it was reasonable to expect a phone call but we're banning you from the Olympics." It's like driving 73 in a 65. If you do it every day and don't get pulled over, it's a joke if one day they decide to put you in jail for it.
PS. I don't know the Paul Edwards case. I know there is a big thread on him. If you want to talk to me about hit, call me 844-538-7786 ext 3.
PPS. We have an article about it where I elaborate on my anger on them not doing the same thing every time.
https://www.letsrun.com/news/2021/04/the-worlds-fastest-man-wont-be-at-the-olympics/
I agree. If the price is missing the freaking OLYMPICS, something they train for pretty much their entire lives and only comes around every four years, then the entire testing process has to be held accountable and to the highest standard there can possibly be.
It does make the 100ms interesting tho. Coleman, if healthy, was almost as much a lock as bolt. Just no competition right now for him.
Hope you're right, but....you do know this is some debate about it right now, right?
rojo wrote:
It's like driving 73 in a 65. If you do it every day and don't get pulled over, it's a joke if one day they decide to put you in jail for it./
No. It's like driving 73 in a 65 and then one day you are caught and get a reduced fine, not the standard fine. Think yourself lucky, in Kenya if you are caught and lie about it they double the fine.
Nah bro, hate to break it to you but the pandemic is raging on and there’s a very real possibility that the Olympics will be cancelled. AND THAT’S A GOOD THING.
Japan is just getting into its 4th wave of infections and their vaccination campaign HAS NOT EVEN STARTED YET, there’s 5500 people dying every day in Brazil, Europe is also stuck in a massive Covid hole and is in total shambles, the US and Central/South America isn’t doing amazingly either.... So I’m sure that the Japanese government and the IOC both know that if they were to hold a massive event like this with tens of thousands of people from around the world entering Japan and being close to each other for weeks, that would just create the perfect unimaginable disaster.
And just a few days ago, a leading Japanese politician (the right hand of their Prime Minister) said in a TV interview that cancelling the Olympics is very much on their table, and if the situation won’t start to shows signs of improvement in the next ~2 months than it will be the “only viable option”.
So let’s just hope that common sense will actually prevail and that they won’t hold the Olympics, otherwise this nightmare we’re living in will get a WHOLE LOT longer.
worlds fastest man? Lol. Doped up cheaters dont count. Nothing he did matters. He is a nothing.