Nobody's fault but his own (and Powell). First heat was harder to make it out of AND he knew exactly what he had to run to make it to the finals. Let them take it out in 65??? He is so much better than them why would you let them into the race. LMAO RIP
The slower pace helped most of the second heat since they would be hard pressed to run a 3:58 on their best day so why not just race for a top 4 finish....this put pressure on the favorites and Tanner showed literally zero initiative to pull away from the pack. full blame on him imo and the way he looked/closed during the final stretch i dont think he deserved to make it anyway.
despite the ridiculous times coop and cole have been putting up i found it a little odd that everyone has been stanning for tanner with slower times (2 seconds at best w/ conversion and 5 seconds in head to head). i mean he clearly has huge potential and was a favorite for the win, but i think we are overstating the importance of "championship" experience here...they are running in a mostly empty stadium and he clearly demonstrated poor tactics.
Ill admit I gave primary consideration to his tactical experience when picking Tanner over Hocker. But they are both young and at the start of their careers, so I guess relatively speaking they both lack exp
Will be a good lesson for Tanner, he will bounce back
jabouko wrote:
Ill admit I gave primary consideration to his tactical experience when picking Tanner over Hocker. But they are both young and at the start of their careers, so I guess relatively speaking they both lack exp
Will be a good lesson for Tanner, he will bounce back
I agree. It’s always dangerous when the pace is that slow. Let’s too many guys into the race. I think he is thinking ahead to the Olympics. I would bet his collegiate outdoor season is brief. Running slow tactical race is good championship experience for him
Jgt11 wrote:
He had also been racing in the nike spikes all season. Now that he has to run in Adidas, he is at an even bigger disadvantage having not raced in them. Dumb decision
If races are being decided by shoe tech at sub-elite level then the sport is screwed. You can't know you're seeing the best athlete win
How is this in any way Powell’s fault? Tanner just ran an awful race. He obviously didn’t want to use any energy to win, he just wanted to qualify and underestimated the field. That’s a racing mistake, not a coaching mistake.
Coach should have told him to run a nice even 3:58.
Dairyland wrote:
How is this in any way Powell’s fault? Tanner just ran an awful race. He obviously didn’t want to use any energy to win, he just wanted to qualify and underestimated the field. That’s a racing mistake, not a coaching mistake.
If you were the coach would you not talk to your athlete about how he should run the race? They knew exactly what time he would need to run to get in. He is fully capable of running 3:58 or faster in a heat of guys who likely could not. He easily could have run a Cole Hocker style race and slowed down if he was ahead far enough. Either Powell gave him a terrible race strategy or he did not give him one at all.
Coaches don’t give race “strategies”
Everything changes on the fly and it’s up to the athlete to run, not the coach.
Dairyland wrote:
Coaches don’t give race “strategies”
Everything changes on the fly and it’s up to the athlete to run, not the coach.
They very frequently do. Typically that's the main thing you talk about close to a race. Have you ever run competitively?
Agreed - I’m sure they went over every scenario that could have played out. Tanner is not a very big guy, I think sitting in the pack and getting tossed around like a rag doll for half the race just burned any finishing speed out of him. His penultimate lap was faster than his bell lap... disappointing - it would have been exciting to see him against Hocker.
Dairyland wrote:
Coaches don’t give race “strategies”
Everything changes on the fly and it’s up to the athlete to run, not the coach.
What are you talking about? I would be surprised if there is anyone who raced in the DMR on any team that didn’t have strategies conveyed by their coach. That’s literally the coaches job.
The coaches job is to coach. The athletes job is to run. Sure a coach might be a race “plan” but plans get messed up the second one other athlete interferes with it. In a race you must be fluid and respond to every move whether it goes with what you or your coach thought was going to happen or not.
Giving extensive race plans in a sign of insecurity in your athlete or their fitness. The body knows what to do when it is ready, it is up to the athlete to recognize when to make moves and use their bodies strength to their advance in the race. There are seldom times a coach has anything to do with an athlete after the gun goes off. Occasionally, usually during an XC race, a coach will be able to tell an athlete what place they’re in, or how far is left from the finish to start their kick. All the yelling and screaming that many coaches do to close the gap or run faster is useless. The athlete already knows they need to do that.
Yea big surprise that was
bearcatRun1998 wrote:
Sad we can't see Tanner vs Hocker, would have been a good battle. Tanner needed a more honest race
That’s completely on him.
Gotta make the final before you can win, big guy.
That last 109 yards is a b!tch!
No plan got messed up here if the coach had told him to run 29 per lap. It is pretty easy on each lap when the coach was yelling "31", to pick up the pace but he chose to keep plodding along.
What spikes was he wearing today?
For all the people talking about shoes, he ran a 3:55 at the husky classic two weeks ago in the same adidas spikes he wore today. Tactically he was bad today and thats why he didn't advance.